Ss-1c scud b + maz-543

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  1. Kiyoshi

    Kiyoshi Member

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    Heya xD

    It's been a while since I showed a little of my work, but I didn't feel like doing the umpteenth building thread for a GPM tank (even tho it's 1:16 instead of 1:25). I will post pics when I am done with it xD

    Since the other project only leaves me with the tracks to cut out and glue, I decided to start on my next project: the Modelik 1:25 SS-1C SCUD B + MAZ-543. With over 6000 parts (I think), this is by far the biggest project I have undertaken so far. It will cost quite a lot of time till it's finished, but that's part of the fun :)

    So far I haven't done much yet, just cut out the parts that needed to be glued on 1mm cardstock. Apart from that, I shall use .2 mm and .5 mm cardstock and an assortment of metal wire and plastic sheeting.

    Enough talking, here are the first pics:

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  2. Zathros

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    Holy Moly!! This will be quite interesting to watch, please post lots of pics!! :)
  3. Kiyoshi

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    I'll make sure to post lots of pics, because I want to record the process for myself as well. Basically, I will be ticking off the different building groups (some 632 or so, I think) and list them all separately.

    By now I have found that my fingers don't really like cutting circles in 1mm cardstock, so progress is slow *grins*
  4. Zathros

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    That 1mm card stock is a love/hate, mostly hate, relationship. You end up with a fantastic looking model. I think I would try and substitute rigid foam board where possible, or just rigid foam, as it paints and is easily glued too.. :)
  5. silveroxide

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    I believe that in another site, someone built this model and there were some fit problems in the chassis. Google around for some more reference photos to add more details. This will be a bit too large for my display spaces but I will enjoy watching your build on this subject.
  6. Aries1

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    Hola gente, me parece un buen tema este del camión con el scud, lo voy a seuir atentamente, gracias!











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    Hi folks, I think a good topic this truck with scud, I will carefully seuir Thanks!
  7. Kiyoshi

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    Hey Silveroxide, I saw that thread too and will have a look into it before I get to that part (although it will happen real soon since it's in building group 1, which I am working on at the moment). There was something about that thread tho that kept me wondering, because one person said there was a mistake, and the other said nothing was wrong. So I'll post whatever result I'll get for future builders xD
  8. Kiyoshi

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    Just a short update this time, because I am still working on building group 1 (the chassis), which turns out to be more work than expected. On the other hand, if I'd just do it fast and make mistakes now, I will have a lot of problems with the other parts later xD

    Right now I have cut out the two long parts that form the length of the chassis and am working on the crossbeams that go inbetween. There are - in total - four crossbeams and I have taken a picture of them in different states:

    1: fixed in place
    2: assembled and painted
    3: assembled and unpainted
    4: the different parts

    Because I used a camera with flash, the colours are a bit off. In real life there isn't much colour difference between the original print and the painted glaringly white sides.

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    @SilverOxide: I found the thread on the "mistake" you referred to on another (german) forum. I already figured, from the 13 pages of building drawings (I will be building from drawings only, since I don't understand the polish instructions ;) that something might be wrong there. When I arrive at that stage, I'll post some pics and describe the solution (and why it could go wrong)
  9. silveroxide

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    Preparation is a big first step in building an excellent model. I am glad that you found that site, I just could not remember it, But it is a good reference in the building of this model. Enjoy and waiting to see the build take shape.
  10. Kiyoshi

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    I finished the work on the first part of the chassis, and did encounter the problem silveroxide mentioned. The drawings aren't very clear on how to proceed. For future builders, I have included a sketch of how to attach the reaaaaaaaaally long strips to the chassis.

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    Next up will be some parts that connect the two long parts and add rigidity to the frame. It's kinda hard to name all the different parts, I have no clue what they are called in my native tongue to begin with xD but I am confident all will become clear in the end ;)

    So far I have built parts 1 - 1j, with many many more to come.
  11. Zathros

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    The model looks very straight and true. You might want to make sure you can color all the edges. Any color is better than white! :)
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    You're right, Zathros :) but no worries, I took the picture before I painted the last white bits ;)
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    Another small update :) I have been working on the parts 1p, 1r and 1s (1q doesn't exist). I strongly recommend to build these before putting 1l - 1o in place, as they come directly beneath the latter ones (I have marked 1l - 1o with an arrow). Rolling the tubes turned out to be extremely easy, since they are printed on paper with a strength of max 70 gr/m². I kinda feared the rolling because of my experiences with earlier models, and I wondered about the model being printed on two different strenghts of paper, but it actually made a lot of sense :)

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    And yet another small update, with the remaining parts of building group 1. They kinda annoyed me, because after my optimism yesterday regarding rolling the tubes, todays tubes turned out to be naaaasty, in more than one way. First of all, the strip of paper was too long, making the tubes too thick, and unfortunately, the paper was 1mm too narrow, so it didn't fit between the girders. After having a look at others who have build this model, I decided to cut some wood at the right length and use that instead of the paper rolls. I think it worked quite well.

    Next will be building group 2, which seems to the connection of the steering mechanism to the chassis. I plan to build the model steerable, but I can't promise I'll manage. The building drawings are very complicated in that respect (at least to someone who knows virtually nothing about steering mechanisms :) )

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    And another update :) After finishing the chassis, it's time to concentrate on the parts of the steering system. Since the kit is meant to be built steerable, I have a great many movable parts to figure out and build. The diagrams are helpful, as long as you allow yourself to stare at them for a long time :)

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    First I needed to make some ummm... holders for arms that transfer the movement of the steering system to other parts of the model. The construction of these was a puzzle in itself, as it turned out to be a tube rolled around a pin, inside another rolled tube. The arms are glued to the top and bottom of the inner tube and can move. To prove that, two pictures:

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    For some reason these parts appear green on my picture, but they are black.

    To connect the arms, a long rod needed to be cut to size. I opted for thin metal shashlik pens, since they are very cheap and easy to use. Then I spent a long long time searching for parts that didn't exist: little eyelets to connect the rod to the arms. Since I don't know how to work metal, nor possess a workshop, I decided to punch out some small cardboard circles which I glued to the ends of the rod with superglue. Then I strengthened the cardboard by applying another layer of superglue, before I painted the whole thing black (adding yet another layer). I hope that will be strong enough. If not, I'll just add another coat of glue.

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    I have seen other models being painted over completely, but I try to use as much of the original print as possible. I know that some colour differences on painted edges can't be avoided, but so be it. The print is very detailed and I'd like to keep it that way xD There is no way I can add the detail again after painting everything over.
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    Heya :) Time for another update. I have been trying to understand the steering rods today, and I think I finally understand what I should be doing. I have been working most of the day on just a few parts, hoping everything will fit in the end, because it seems to me that some angles of the movable parts aren't exactly what they should be. I will find out sooner rather than later tho xD

    And now for some pictures (up till now, everything is still movable :) ).

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  17. Zathros

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    These little linkages are so cool and really make the model stand out. Great job! :)
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    Really brilliant project, I am fascinated in Cold War Soviet artillery and will follow this build with eyes wide open! If you need any technical details on the actual system in other languages beyond english I might be able to help, but I am certain with 6000 parts the less the better! Davai comrade!

    Rich
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    Thanks @Zathros and @Milan :)

    Unfortunately I haven't been able to do as much as I planned. There are two reasons for that, one good, one bad. The good reason is that I finally have a job after being jobless for over two years. The bad reason is that on my way to work on my first day (last thursday), I got caught in a car crash on the highway, escaping with relatively minor injuries (severely bruised thorax - the safety belt caused that - and a mild concussion) but totally wrecking my car in the process (and it wasn't even my fault!). I finally thought my stream of bad luck dried up, but it had a nasty surprise in the end. I did manage to get to work yesterday tho, so all ended up pretty much okay, and as a bonus I might end up with a better car than before :)

    When it comes to the model, I have been working (still) on the steering mechanism. The slightly off angles I mentioned in an earlier post haven't caused me much problems till now, and I hope it'll stay that way. I kinda forgot to make lots of pictures, but I think these will give the general idea (except for the last, that used to be my car, but then 2 feet longer).

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    A new day, a new update. When I read back in this thread, I realized I planned to name all the building groups I was using. I will post an overview pic of all those groups when the steering system is done, but till now I have built group 1 (frame) and groups 2 - 14 (steering system).

    Group 15 is giving me a headache at the moment (or is the concussion? ;) ) because the drawings don't make sense. I have too many parts, according to the drawings, and the connection between the two different parts of the steering system that as of yet still work separately is impossible to make. So I will connect at another point, and post pics of that in my next post with some explanation of what I did.

    It also means that I will move on from dull green and black to shiny aluminium, which is a nice change. Good thing I already bought some aluminium paint to colour the edges :)

    And now for the progress of today:

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    As you can see on the picture above, I cut the connection rod between the middle and right arm about 1mm too short. Since the middle one only has the function of transferring the movement to the left arm, I will leave it as it is.

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