South Africa

Discussion in 'The Real Thing- International' started by MadHatter, Feb 17, 2007.

  1. MadHatter

    MadHatter Charging at full tilt.

    announce1 Any body out there interested in South African trains, why not drop a line here?

  2. MadHatter

    MadHatter Charging at full tilt.

    Can You see Superman??

    :eek: Can you spot the man of steel??? :rolleyes:

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  3. MadHatter

    MadHatter Charging at full tilt.

    Trans Karoo

    Here is a picture of one of our mainline trains that run between Johannesburg, Gauteng and Cape Town, Western Cape

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  4. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    MadHatter:wave:, is that part of YOUR layout in the first pic? if so, i would like to see more!:thumb::D. i am also interested in the engines in your avatar, do you have any pics or info on those? THANKS!:D -Deano
  5. Torpedo

    Torpedo Member

    Any particular reason those coaches have that paint scheme? It sure is colorful.
  6. MadHatter

    MadHatter Charging at full tilt.

    Hi UP SD40-2!

    Alas, I don't have a layout as yet, but I'm busy building a portable HO layout that can be folded up into a suitecase, will post pics on my progress- and YES I've got tons of info on those locos and pics too, as I get time I will slowely but surely post them under this thread. That is a pic from one of our conventions.

    As a matter of perspective and interest the locos here are only as high as the nose on your SD40-2s. That is a General Electric brancline diesel, 4 stroke, V8 turbo charged after cooled diesel engine (Engine type U15C). We also have a GM version (engine type GT18MC)- Locally known as the class 35.

    Thanks for the interest.
  7. MadHatter

    MadHatter Charging at full tilt.

    Hi Torpedo

    Those coaches used to belong to Main Line Passenger Services, they are now owned- since 1990- by Spoornet which Privatised from the Government (used to be South African Railways + Harbours). The new name for MLPS is Shoshaloza Meyl, which in English means "We are moving forward". That is the new colour scheme for their coaches.

    I call them "Lolipop" coaches
  8. MadHatter

    MadHatter Charging at full tilt.

    Here are the different colour schemes.

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  9. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

    That reminds me of a photo... hold on... It's not in South Africa, but the small engine is a standard GE export model, a U20C, which is also found in South Africa. (Well, at least one kind is; there are two models which used the U20C designation.) The large engine is built to US loading gauge, though it's not exactly a domestic model. The loading gauge difference looks about the same as what you describe between South Africa and the US. I never realized it was "only up to the nose" until you mentioned it!
  10. MadHatter

    MadHatter Charging at full tilt.

    I want to come to America so I can see how big your trains are- especially the
    SD 90 MACs and the Big Boy (UP is my favourite US road and the BNSF). Because you can't tell the difference until you've actually seen it- I even want to see your double storey coaches and those auto racks.

    Thanks for the pic Triplex
  11. MadHatter

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    Lady older than 100 years

    This is a Class 6A and she is over 100 years old :eek:.

    I photographed her at the museum where I volunteer, the South African National Railway and Steam Museum (SANRASM).

    She normally gets given three to four coaches but the shot was taken in January when everyone is down at the coast.

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  12. MadHatter

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    Shots inside a CTC tower.

    Luckily my friend is the tower operator and he let us come up to visit him in the CTC tower on the Harmony Gold Mine.

    Here is an example of a panel that you may find in a tower.

    Everything looks nearby but that is a good few Kilometers of track.
    SANRASM has permission to run their open days over a part of the mine system.

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  13. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

    Maybe you can answer this simple question, about which I've heard vague and conflicting information. When did regular steam working end on SAR?
  14. TrainNut

    TrainNut Ditat Deus

    Yep, took some staring but I finally found him! Nice scene.
  15. MadHatter

    MadHatter Charging at full tilt.

    Triplex- The phasing out of steam in South Africa started in the '80s, but the official year was January 1st, 1990.

    Spoornet took over South African Transport Services (SATS), which used to be South African Railways & Harbours, which used to be South African Railways, which came from four amalgamated railways.

    Spoornet (which, in English, means Tracknet) has just had a name change to Transnet Freight Rail- a stupid name in my opinion.

    Sorry, more info than needed! But ja, 1st Jan '90- Gone But not Forgotten.

    Congrats TrainNut!
  16. Bob Collins

    Bob Collins Active Member

    Although I crossed and recrossed the mainline several times as I moved north from Cape Town to Jo-burg, I actually saw very little traffic anywhere!
  17. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    I have an interest in South African railroads...but I'm already stretched thin between Colorado Narrow Gauge (36"), Midwestern mainlines, a future German module, and a future...small...OO British layout.

    I enjoy learning about commonwealth and germanic railroads...not too kean on French or Italian RRs.
  18. Bob Collins

    Bob Collins Active Member

    Having ridden on many of the European railroads (UK, France, Germany, Italy, Austrian, Czech, Hungarian, Slovakian and Croatian), I too would have to put the Italian ones near the bottom of my list. I have yet to ride one that left or arrived on time! The few French trains I have been on were usually dirty and the employees were universally rude.
  19. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    I've actually had good experiences on is just that their locomotives and the Italian ones are ugly. I was also there in December...and my French friend, Luc, was shocked when I told him that the Parisians were polite to me.

    It is funny that you've found the Italian railways to, um, not have pocket that fits with the personalities of the Italians I know at school!

    Which ones did you like the best, Bob?

    I liked the Austrians heart belongs to Vienna.
  20. Bob Collins

    Bob Collins Active Member

    I imagine the best run are the German ones. Many years ago I lived in Germany and they were the most prompt mode of transporation I have ever experienced. The Austrian RR was also excellent. If you enjoy a little adventure in your life, in 2005 we rode trains from Prague to Budapest, stayed there for a few days, then back on the train to Zagreb, Croatia. No ICEs or TEEs! Just the basics, but not at all crowded and all in all a great trip. And yes, the engines were ugly, at least by our "standards"

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