My newest train for my layout!

Discussion in 'HO Scale Model Trains' started by Spawn of Chaos, Feb 11, 2007.

  1. green_elite_cab

    green_elite_cab Keep It Moving!

    cool stuff!

    becareful though. make sure you don't end up with another 3351!

    whats the make of this DD40? not all are good models to buy.
  2. haha good point. That was pretty sad.

    It's an Athearn, so I'm pretty sure it'll be fine. He says the front coupler is not attached but is included. He also says that it has two separate motors, so it's got plenty of power.

    I'm into power, in case you didn't notice...

    A pic of my current in-house locomotive stock:
    It's a VERY long image.

    And here's one of the DD40 this guy's selling:
  3. green_elite_cab

    green_elite_cab Keep It Moving!

    yeah, some of the bachmann ones were trouble. also, thats really a DD35, but athearn calls it a DD40.
  4. CNWman

    CNWman CNW Fan

    GEC, at this rate, you're gonna coin 3351 as a phrase for "baddly treated/running loco":D !
  5. GEC: You sure about that? Cause I have found pics and info about a real DD40 and that's what it looks like.

    CNW: We should do that. All of us.
  6. CNWman

    CNWman CNW Fan

    Hey Cannonball! Your BN locomotive's a 3351!sign1
  7. However...right me...
  8. CNWman

    CNWman CNW Fan

    Cannonball got a loco off E-Bay and it ran like crap. shaygetz probably is still trying to figure how it is put back together after he fixed the problem
  9. green_elite_cab

    green_elite_cab Keep It Moving!

    i'm absolutely positive that all DD40s were made with a wide cab. if it has a standard EMD cab, then its a DD35.
  10. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    g_e_c is 100% CORRECT!:thumb: the engine pictured as a "DD40" (really they were a DD40AX)is REALLY a DD35A;). ALL DD40AX's had "safety cabs", large rear sandboxes that were where the railings are, a large UP logo on each side along with Union Pacific spelled out, and NONE of them were numbered with two digits, like the number 70 shown in the pic. ALL DD40AX's were numbered in the 6900 series. the engine in the pic IS an Athearn DD35A, i have one, and Athearn NEVER made the DD40AX. Bachmann made the DD40AX in plastic(i have one of those too). BTW Chaos, NICE Big Boy and 0-8-0!:thumb:

  11. Thanx for the Big Boy comment!

    I won the DD35/40/whatever it is for $100 with a max bid of (sign1) $300...XD yayz!
  12. CCT70

    CCT70 Member

    Um... You paid WAY too much for the DD40. That IS a DD40 guys, EMD had it in their catalog and nobody bought it. UP bought DDA40X's (the "Centennial's").

    The Athearn DD-40's are worth about $30-40 new and in decent condition. You got taken for a ride on that one. I see them at flea markets occasionally for $10.
  13. Well, the other guy bidding on it had some sort of bid-bot that took me up to $100; if he hadn't have done that, I would have had it for like $42.
  14. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    WOW!!!:eek: , sorry CCT70, but YOU COULDN'T BE MORE WRONG!:eek: The picture of the engine Chaos bought IS IN FACT a DD35A:thumb:. the DD35A's UP had,STARTED WITH THE NUMBER 70!(just like the one he bought, #70;)) UP had 15 of the A units. I'm sorry, i cant remember how many B unts they had:oops:. the DD35's were made in the 60's, and the last of them was scrapped out in the late 80's. NONE survive today.

    THE DD40AX's had 4 digit numbers, starting at 6900 and went up from there(see bottom pic).

    THE picture of the engine Chaos bought is a picture of a UP engine with the DD wheel arrangement, and has the #70 on it, UP's VERY FIRST DD35A WAS #70!!! THUS, THIS ENGINE IS A DD35A, PERIOD! Chaos seems to be collecting UP stuff(thats cool!:D), lets keep him straight on what he is getting;). being a HUGE UP FAN:D, i love to see others model UP, and i want him to know what he IS REALLY GETTING.:thumb:

    Chaos, true, you did pay more then i have seen them go for, but hey, as long as YOU are HAPPY, isn't that all that REALLY matters?:D

    PICS BELOW: pic 1-MY UP DD35A(notice MINE is #70 too!:D), AND, pic 2-MY UP DD40AX

    :D-Deano [​IMG] [​IMG]
  15. Deano, where did you get that DD40AX from and who makes it? I have the Kato SD90MAC and that DD would look REALLY good MU'ing with the 90MAC!! Decades seperate there use, I know, but still, model railroading has no boundries! :D
  16. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    Wildcat, there is still a UP DD40AX in use TODAY!!!:thumb: so theoretically they "could" be MUed....but NOT REALLY. if i remember right:rolleyes:, the DD40AX had DC traction motors in it, the SD90MAC has AC traction motors in it, a run with a DD40AX would burn 'em up in no time;), but we wont tell anyonetooth1.

    My DD40AX is a Bachmann Spectrum.:D-Deano
  17. green_elite_cab

    green_elite_cab Keep It Moving!

    i heard that there really wasn't a problem with AC and DC stuff as long as it was in front or some other deal. didn't this get resolved?
  18. chessie4155

    chessie4155 Active Member

    I'm not a big fan of UP but those are some awsum engines Deano:thumb: ... WOW, talk about power! How in the world do you run those bad boys on your layout.. you must have a minimum radius of 60" or better...I would have loved to have been trackside to watch and hear one of those Centurians and its B units flying by! WOW.
  19. CCT70

    CCT70 Member


    The DD-40 was offered in EMD's catalog in the 1960's as a production engine with a standard cab and engineering drawings were made as such. THESE are the drawings that Athearn used for their DD-40 model. You are correct that it resembles a DD-35 and could very easily pass for a DD-35 which made it into production as a real locomotive. UP was the only railroad interested in the EMD DD-40 and only after they highly modified it into what we know today as a DDA-40X like your Spectrum model. I thought otherwise as well, but this info was relayed to me by a guy at Athearn and reiterrated by a former EMD employee now on the UP steam crew. I was fortunate enough to spend some time with the UP Steam crew at Portola 2 years ago when they brought the 3985 over. I have also been talked into washing the real UP 6936 not once, but twice, to remove tunnel snot and let me tell you, you don't fully realize how big that thing is until you have to scrub it.

    So yeah, while the Athearn model resembles a DD-35 in every way, and is even numbered in UP's DD-35 numbering series, *according to Athearn and EMD*, that model is actually a DD-40 that never made it off the drawing board and catalog.

    You wanna know what I think of those models? I consider them DD-35's myself. Athearn and EMD's explanation is all semantics to me, as if it looks like a 35, and is numbered like a 35, than it is a 35. So I guess we're both right. The only difference *on a real DD-40 vs. a DD-35 would have been internal anyway.

    And by the way, you CAN M.U. a AC and a D/C traction motored locomotive just fine. We've M.U.ed the UP 1983 to the 6936 and even the UP1983 to other museum engines and UP does it daily.

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