Fiat 508 "Balilla"

Discussion in 'Commercial & Civilian Vehicles' started by Tonino, Dec 17, 2015.

  1. Tonino

    Tonino Member

    OK now that drawing work is done, it's time to start build something.

    The original model provided a pre-cut heavy cardboard for the structural pieces. I'm not sure about the thickness so I tried to figure it looking other pieces that are to be glued to lateral sides of the chassis. I laminated all "white" parts to 1 mm. cardboard.

    Here are all chassis parts that are to be assembled in a thick "sandwich"

    As the overall thickness seemed somewhat under the correct size I added an additional sheet to the part on the right.

    Here is the completed chassis.

    It seems a little "flat" but I added some more "3D feeling" with my textures (shaded fillings). Not as good as real 3D parts but not so bad after all.

    The part on the left was red in the original. As I want to make black fenders I think it's better to redraw it in black. I'm not sure about its visibility at the end.
    I'll make some test fit as soon as I have the necessary components.

    This is essentially a support for the hood parts and for the instrument panel inside. I don't think it will be seen in the finished model.

    More to come soon :D
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  2. DanBKing

    DanBKing Active Member

    WOW!!! That is coming along beautifully.!
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  3. blueyeppoon

    blueyeppoon Member

    beautiful car nice mods

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  4. Rhaven Blaack

    Rhaven Blaack ADMINISTRATOR Administrator

    OK, you now have my attention!!!
    I will be following this thread!!!
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  5. Tonino

    Tonino Member

    Thanks Mike!
    And, RB, it's always a pleasure to have you in the audience. Happy to see you here :D

    A very little update.
    Working on internal side walls.
    I just wanted to give some more 3D feeling so I draw additional copy of details to be able to add them on the "base level"
    This is one of the door "pockets" (I don't know if this is the correct word). With a little curvature it becomes nearly real.

    And this is the complete inner door.
    The window crank is made from three separate pieces. For this reason I put many copies of those little details in the final layout. So anyone can look for the detail level he wants.

    For the windows I added the front glass (that was not provided in the original model) but put it in a partially lowered position to add more realism without covering too much the view of internal details.

    That's all for today. See you soon!
  6. zathros

    zathros -----SENIOR---- Administrator

    I am impressed beyond words!! :)
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  7. Rhaven Blaack

    Rhaven Blaack ADMINISTRATOR Administrator

    The pocket and the window crank looks really good and adds that perfect touch. It is the little details like that that really make projects like this POP!
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  8. DanBKing

    DanBKing Active Member

    I like your artistic touch with the open window. :)
    Lovely clean work!
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  9. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator

    Big THUMBS UP! :)
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  10. zathros

    zathros -----SENIOR---- Administrator

    I love this. I wish I had a copy of the bottom of the car photo, I would like to make the suspension and the bottom of the engine. ;)
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  11. Tonino

    Tonino Member

    I've searched a lot for photos of the car seen from below but had no success.
    My chassis underside is generated mostly by my own fantasy...
  12. Tonino

    Tonino Member

    A little update with today's work.

    Preparing seats I realized the front ones arrive too close to the walls, there's no room for my custom pockets.
    The soultion is simple: cutting 1 mm. of the external border. The general shape doesn't suffer from this correction.

    Here are the complete seats. As you see the backrest is flush with the trimmed lower seat section.

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    The shape of the car starts emerging from the paper...

    That's all for today. Have a nice week! :)
  13. zathros

    zathros -----SENIOR---- Administrator

    Some pics I found for reference.


    508c_tst1c.jpg 1100_ac1.jpg 1100_bn6.jpg 1100_ch3.jpg 1100_ch6.jpg Fiat.1100.01.jpg it_6497_parts2.jpg mot_5010.jpg Polski Fiat 508 III telaio 1934.jpg
  14. Tonino

    Tonino Member

    Well... Internet browsing is an art, and you, Zathros, are the Master!!! Claphands

    Thanks a lot! Those pictures are pure gold. thumbsup

    The chassis is now done, so I won't put my hand on it anymore, but there are two or three things I still can change after having seen your findings.
    Gear and handbrake levers, just to say one, front suspension, to say another one.
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  15. zathros

    zathros -----SENIOR---- Administrator

    Maybe when you finish up, I'll take a stab at a chassis update, but to be honest, your model is beautiful, I don't think it needs anything. Those interior shots are incredible. I want to build this at a 1/25 scale, if not bigger!! I hope the pictures are vector images, with Photoshop, I can rearrange the pictures to make a big model, and I have a 13" wide by up to 6' feet long worth of paper printer, normally you use 13" in. x 19" in.. I wish I could get the steam up to make the body out of aluminum flashing. This model would be a perfect candidate. You turned a rock into a Gem! This car was manufactured in Lingotto, Italy, Warsaw, Poland, Neckarsulm, Germany, Suresnes, France, so a straight or curved gear shift arm is appropriate, as each country banged these little beauties out adding their own touch. I think the whole line up is a testament to the sexy engineering that Italian cars have. A cute sedan, to sexy sport cars, all built on the same basic platform. I would love to find one in a Barn somewhere!

    The original pick up, contrasted with the modern "Woodie" would make an interesting alternative. The military one I found today!! I believe that was produced in France. :)

    std_1937_fiat_balilla_pick_up.jpg Fiat_Balilla_4 Woodie.jpg FIAT-Balilla_Militare.jpg
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  16. Tonino

    Tonino Member


    The dashboard is absolutey my favourite part of the model and, as I said before, I put the best of my efforts to have a nice instrument panel (as in ANY kind of model I build).
    This time, as I explained in a previous post, I spent a lot of time redrawing the big round instrument dial, really a nice piece of design, who dominates the dashboard of this Balilla.
    Unfortunately I made a big mistake this time.
    My first try seemed to be a good success, at a first glance. I didn't like much the raised doors of the glove compartments, but the dial was very good.
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    ...but, after several minutes, I noticed the "glass" was curving in the middle, It was becoming cylindrical...
    Disaster! I useda plastic piece as wide as the dashboard to have a regular thickness without a central "bump". But used a wrong glue (UHU Hart) probably the solvent was too strong and the surface too big, and the plastic warped badly.
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    After one hour the part was totally ruined.

    All to be re-done from the beginning :headbange:

    Tried several solutions. Eventually this one seemed to me the best option:
    - a first layer with 3 apertures (the dial and the doors - this time recessed instead of raised)
    - a little plastic circle (to be fixed with very little amount of glue)
    - a second layer with the doors and another central hole (to give more depth to the intrumentation)
    - and finally the dial itself at the center of a full size layer.
    So the dashboard is a sort of sandwich with the visible parts in different depths.

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    It worked much better and looks great. This will be the definitive solution for the Balilla dashboard in my elaboration.
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  17. Tonino

    Tonino Member

    Another little update about interiors...
    Zathros' pictures gave me another idea:
    The shift lever in the model was pretty ugly, but I already had glued it.
    No problem. I just reopened the file for the 100th update and drew a new shift lever as well as a new hand brake.
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    I also added another layer to the central tunnel to give more thickness and to cover traces of the previous glueing.
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    Now the commands are much more realistic.
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2016
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  18. DanBKing

    DanBKing Active Member

    Your detailing work is really bringing this model to life!!!!
    Makes me almost wanna get in it and drive it away down a nice country road in the summer. :)
  19. Tonino

    Tonino Member

    :D This is the secret dream of ANY modeller I think: to be able to enter in his own creation.

    If someone would ever invent the "shrinking machine" he could raise a lot of orders from model builders community.
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  20. Tonino

    Tonino Member

    ...and this is the steering wheel!

    What you see here (on the right) is the reason for you'll find so many doubled parts in the final pdf.
    You can never know when you will be caught by the need to add some additional layer. So I did for this wheel to give it a nicer look and a more "3D" feeling.

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    And so the most enjoying part of the build is over.
    Now that internal detail is done I'll have to deal with the bodywork... let's hope it won't be source of anger...
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