70's Question...

Discussion in 'The Real Thing- North America' started by UP SD40-2, May 27, 2007.

  1. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    I'm a little embarrassed to ask this as i was born in the mid 60's and should remember it:oops: , but were there ANY 40'ers(boxcars)still used in the 70's? :confused: seems to me i remember seeing some 40' stragglers around then, but just want to be sure:winki: . THANK YOU for ANY help:smilie: -Deano
  2. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

    40' boxcars were built into the 60s. In Canada at least, they were used into the 90s by major roads. They would still have been quite common in the 70s.
  3. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    THANK YOU Triplex!:up: :mrgreen: -Deano
  4. Greg Elems

    Greg Elems Member

    In general use, the 40' was still around in the late 70's and even a few were seen in the early 80's. The recession of the early 80's pretty much removed them from service. I used to see them still hauling grain in 1981.

  5. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    Greg:wav: , grain huh...hmm...that REALLY HELPS!:up: THANK YOU!:mrgreen: -Deano
  6. Jim Krause

    Jim Krause Active Member

    MRL still has a few in MOW service in Missoula, MT.
  7. brakie

    brakie Active Member

    Deano,Due to the boxcar shortage of the late 60s and 70s many 40 footers was rebuilt but,the roof walk had been removed..The side ladders was lowered but,the end ladders remain in place because the brake wheel was still mounded in their regular location.
    Like so.

    Athearn - HO RTR 40' Modern Box, NP/Green #42652
  8. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

    That's what they were used for in their last years in Canada. 100-ton covered hoppers had taken over most grain traffic, but boxcars were used on lines which couldn't handle the axle loading of the covered hoppers, or at elevators not equipped for loading covered hoppers.
  9. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    AGAIN, THANK YOU FOLKS!:smilie: you have provided me with all the info i needed:up: .

    Larry, i knew about the ladders & roofwalks being removed, but wasn't sure when this happened, THANKS for telling me:up: .

    NOW...a NEW PROBLEM has arose:eeki: , i try and do things as prototypical as i can:winki: , HOWEVER, being i collect and run UP engines from the Past-Present:rolls: , i WILL NOT be taking off the ladders or roof walks from my 40'ers:eeki: :oops: . Cripes, it would cost me a fortune to buy cars that was 100% prototypically correct to run with the whole gambit of engines i have:winki: .

    i guess when i post pics of my late 60's-70's stuff, you'll just have to pretend the ladders and roof walks ARE NOT there:winki: :oops: :toug: :119: . THANKS!:mrgreen: -Deano
  10. chessie4155

    chessie4155 Active Member

    Deano: Don't worry about removing all the rolf walks. Back then the Rail Roads had a dead line to remove them and I do not believe that all cars had there roof walks removed. There were just way to many to pull in and remove them. When they were removed was probably when they were set out for repairs of some kind. Chessie used several 40's in MOW service. Leave em on, remove what ya can if you want, but leave several on. Besides, the roof walk is just that much more added detail. It's your road, do what you want, but have fun with it.
  11. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    THANKS MARK!:smilie: thats just what i am going to do:thumb: . stuff like that kinda bugs me, but i gotta draw a line somewhere:winki: :119: . :mrgreen: -Deano
  12. Ralph

    Ralph Remember...it's for fun!

    40' box cars all over the place on my 1970's layout! :thumb:
    I like 'em especially because I can fit ten on my car float. :)

    Attached Files:

  13. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    THANKS RALPH!, thats even more backup for me to use the 40'ers:up: . BTW, NICE PIC!!!:up: :up: :up: :smilie: -Deano
  14. chessie4155

    chessie4155 Active Member

    Sweeet lookin shot there Ralph.
  15. Jim Krause

    Jim Krause Active Member

    WARNING: You will receive an unannounced visit from the conformity commitee, with Xacto knives in hand. All roof walks and ladders will be removed. Disclaimer-- Only kidding.
  16. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    Jim:wav: , thats what I'm scarred of!:eeki: :119: , but with the vast amount of engines from different periods...i have to draw a line somewhere:p sign1 :mrgreen: -Deano
  17. eightyeightfan1

    eightyeightfan1 Now I'm AMP'd

    Quite a few years ago, MR did an article on converting a 40'er to 70's standards(Lowering brake wheel, removing roof walk and shortning ladders).
    But hey...Liked mentioned above..Its your railroad....Do what you like.
    And don't let the rivet counters get you down..Just ignore them.
  18. slekjr

    slekjr Member

  19. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    WOW Charlie:eeki: , what a JACKPOT of pics!!!:thumb::thumb::thumb:
    that REALLY helped out!:winki: THANK YOU so much:smilie: .
    :deano: -Deano
  20. Russ Bellinis

    Russ Bellinis Active Member

    One thing I like about 40 foot cars, particularly if you have restricted space for a layout, is that more cars will make a train look longer even if the actual length isn't any longer in feet and inches. As an example you can have 2 trains the same length, but a train with 20 40 foot cars will look longer than a train with 8 89 foot autoracks.

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