[sarcasm on] The kits Gents. Not built up. Ya know, they come in a box with some big pieces but mostly little teenie tiny ones instead of a finished product. sign1 [sarcasm off] I was wondering if any one here has had any experience in building them and what kind of success they have had? I have some model building experience, so the idea of putting these together isn't really bothering me. Although I doubt the USS Defiant will be landing on my layout anytime soon. The cost savings to me is worth it as well. I've got about 14 of them to do with possibly another 8 on the way. Yes, I am a glutton for punishment. (If some of you remember I also want to handlay all my track work which is also about to start.) This is going to get interesting... and also take a while. Oh well, I'm in no hurry to get things done.