On3 South Park freight car thread

Discussion in 'Scratchin' & Bashin'' started by nkp174, Dec 3, 2007.

  1. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    The car is now complete other than the brake wheel stuff...and a coat of paint. I don't know that she'll be receiving any paint...anytime soon...

    I've also started a second coal car. The first car was believed to be a UP built type 1 27' coal car...the same prototype as Hartford Products F scale DSP&P 27' coal car...although theirs has the wrong bolster, the wrong trucks, and a couple other small details that are perfectly acceptable. This second car is a UP built type 2 27' coal car...which was the design that served as the backbone of the coal car fleet into C&S days. They came in two different styles...with a 8" or 10" side sills...mine is a 10". Cimarron Works offers this car in Sn3 (and maybe, previously, in On3).

    Lastly, here's the frame for my 26' stock car project. Cimarron Works also offers it in Sn3 and previously in On3...while Trout Creek Engineering is coming out with it in HOn3 and On3.

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  2. Oracle_9

    Oracle_9 New Member

    Awesome thread!!!!! Great builds you are doing.
    I must subscribe to this thread.
  3. Oracle_9

    Oracle_9 New Member

    I see there are scale drawings on the table? If so, where did you obtain them?

    What are "coconut patties" ?
  4. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    Thanks Oracle :)

    I don't know what coconut patties are...it's just the box my dad kept his On3 drop bottom gondola in. Since the gondola is on my layout, I now use the box for scrap storage.

    The drawings are from Ron Rudnick (spark@quik.com). 36 pages of South Park, 30+ of Colorado Central, and a comparable number were their later identities, DL&G & UPD&G...as well as Utah Northern, Kansas Central, and some misc stuff. He also offers a Rio Grande Southern Guide. Some where, I have some John Maxwell plans and a set of South Park connection plans...and misc plans from books...but I prefer the Rudnick guides regardless.

    Here's the current progress. One side that just needs the cross bracing, and the other side under construction. I need to get some more 2x4s to complete the cross bracing and start the ends...

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  5. modelsof1900

    modelsof1900 Member


    all time again, really fine and excellent models and next plans let us surprise, I think.
    Wish you good success for next jobs and I wish us many new pictures of your projects.

  6. NSSD80MAC

    NSSD80MAC Member


    :-o sometimes things are inspirations for others, this is one of them! YOU have a great passion, skills! ( and hell of a lot of patience!) you'll will surely make the Bachmann run and cry!

  7. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    Some updates...While waiting for my LHS to get my NBWs in...I also started a Colorado Central Lime Car. While I don't know if they lasted to my era...they had a few in the early 1880s...and they were cool (Master Creations mis-identified it as a covered ore car...ore was hauled in boxcars)

    Regardless...here it is along with the current state of the stock car and the Type 2 UP 27' coal car...

    With over 300 NWBs needed...the stock car will probably be renamed the "Grandt Line NBW sucking monster" car

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  8. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    So I decided to do a little more tonight...

    I used spacers to make sure the ends were square (they're measured to fit accurately in between the sides.

    I then added the braces. With the braces in place, I removed the top board in between the diagonal braces to form the vent.

    These ends will still need a little beveling for the remaining 3 joints...as well as the grab irons & NBWs.

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  9. modelsof1900

    modelsof1900 Member

    I think that I must do same with my Lake Terminal gondola. And there I have thought that I can build nice models with less money.

  10. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    An alternative I've thought of is to use either small wire or plastic rod as the bolts. Just drilling the hole, sliding it in, cutting it, done. The nuts can be made from square stock...and drilling a hole for the wire/rod.
  11. tetters

    tetters Rail Spiking Fool!

    :thumb: Awesome.
  12. doctorwayne

    doctorwayne Active Member

    Yeah, that would work, but you'd also need to make the washers and cut thread on the rod, too! :rolleyes::p:p;):-D:-D

  13. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member


    As if I can "really" even see the threads on O scale NBWs now...:p
  14. modelsof1900

    modelsof1900 Member

    Like Wayne said - many, many work working with separate parts. The wire is not the problem however I'm sure that I do not made washers and nuts piece for piece in HO-scale - and than 200 pices each for five cars!
  15. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    well, I've almost finished off both new packs of NBWs (350)...have to order more...

    I glued the ends in. All the holes in the ends have been drilled and are awaiting grab irons.

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  16. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    Well, I haven't updated for a while...so here's some of what I've been up to...

    I decided to stay put with my current models until I had a chance to get the interior of the stock car painted..as well as the exposed wood on the other cars. Prior to painting, I resumed work on my 26' flat car and made some nice progress. While the paint dried, I built the frame for a Colorado Central 23' flat car. Here's some fairly current work...

    I don't know why I haven't re-installed 516's doors...aside from wanting to also replace the trucks and frustration over having not gotten the dry transfer letters straight enough.

    And the 23' flat car frame...
  17. tetters

    tetters Rail Spiking Fool!

    You sir, have a ton of patience. Everything looks great.
  18. nachoman

    nachoman Guest

    These cars look like a lot of fun to build. I build in HO, and I wouldn't go through the trouble with all the NBWs on the stock car. For one, I don't have the patience. Also, I really don't want to pay for all those NBWs!! All those detail parts add up! In HO, you can get away with it unless you are going for show-quality. I will simulate nail holes with a small divit, and place the larger NBWs. In O-scale, you can't get away with skipping those details :)


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