Next Loblaws/PC Trainset?

Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by RobertInOntario, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    Yes, exactly. That's just how I viewed these other train sets sold by the other store chain (Loblaws).

    I have a pretty nice CNR Hudson that I bought about 3 years ago. It's not 100% accurate in detail but it at least looks something like a CNR Hudson! I've now weathered it and am pretty pleased with it. I've either given away most of its freight cars, although I did repaint a couple of them in realistic CNR colours with appropriate decals -- that was a fun project as well. Most of the Loblaws freight cars had tacky food-product graphics and cartoons on them!

    In the past, Loblaws would discount their prices from $100 for the set to just $50, so it became an even better deal! :mrgreen:

  2. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

    36 North American railroads had 4-8-4s, almost all with unique designs and several with more than one design. And this is for a wheel arrangement introduced quite late.
  3. Russ Bellinis

    Russ Bellinis Active Member

    Probably being introduced late in the development of steam contributed to the diversity of the designs. By then many railroads had some prejudices toward one design over others for various components. Of course the other thing that factored in to the variety of steam designs compared to the standardization of diesels is diesels run a gear box between the traction motor and the wheels. Steam engines, with the exception of geared locomotives, changed their gearing by changing driver sizes. This resulted in a railroad like the New York Central that seldom had to deal with even a hill between N.Y. and Chicago running different style locomotives than the nearby Pennsy that had quite a bit of mountain running. If you look at the Santa Fe, it was almost like 2 different railroads in the steam era. From Chicago to Raton Pass, it was a plains railroad. Between Raton Pass and California it was a mountain railroad. From Los Angeles to Bakersfield in California was a mountain division, but Bakersfield to San Francisco was a plains division.
  4. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

    I'm saying that the ~40 designs of 4-8-4 aren't even diversity by steam standards. I have no idea how many hundreds of classes of 2-8-0 there were.
  5. GWoodle

    GWoodle Member

    I have heard on another Forum there will be no PC train set this year. The series may have ended due to poor sales of the last one.

    I have seen some Lionel items at Target & Linens N Things. With the bankruptcy of L&T they has some 10% closeout sale on some items. Could be a way to get a discount on a Polar Express & other G/O train sets.
  6. Glen Haasdyk

    Glen Haasdyk Active Member

    Actually The last set (the big ten) sold out so fast that I ony saw them once in the stores before they were gone. My club was fortunate to get one before they were gone.
    The Hudson set from the previous year was over-produced and at the end the stores were giving them away for 49.99.
    If they did produce another set I would suggest a smaller loco like a 2-8-0 or a 4-6-0 which would look better on mose layouts (IMHO).
    Does someone have a better picture of the Costco engine? I'm wondering if the tender is a hicken tender.
  7. msowsun

    msowsun Member

    Yes, it is a Hicken Tender

  8. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    In general, the Hudson set went on sale about year later at half price. In the Toronto area, I don't recall seeing the Big 10 being discounted. I did, however, still see several sets still for sale several months to a year after it was released. Around here, it did sell well but I don't recall seeing it sell out immediately. Rob
  9. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    Do you think this Costco Northern could be kit-bashed into a more authentic CN engine? Or is it so inaccurate that you couldn't even do that ... would it be too much of a challenge?

    Several Gauge folks will be much more familiar with both the ATSF and CNR prototypes.

  10. Squidbait

    Squidbait Recovering ALCO-holic

    Rob, I think it would be much more work than it's worth to try to bash that loco into a CN 4-8-4. Depending on how much you want it to look like a CN, loco, of course.

    But even to get something squint-and-look-at-it-sideways close, you'd really need to do major surgery to the boiler. It and the cab are the wrong shape. Overall the loco is too big.

    Besides, how are you going to fit that huge loco on your 4x6' layout? :p :D
  11. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    Thanks! Yes, I can see that the boiler looks too long and the wrong shape -- I think that's the first thing that stands out as being incorrect.

    Good point about the layout! :eek::confused I probably shouldn't have anything larger than a Pacific, especially with my layout's tight curves.

    Cheers, Rob
  12. train1

    train1 Member

    I just recieved the 'PC insider' for the holiday season, and they admit there is no train this year.
  13. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    Thanks! Well, at least the issue is settled now.

    I wonder if Costco will ever discount their Northern as Loblaws used to? :mrgreen::confused:

  14. 60103

    60103 Pooh Bah

    Rob: CN Northerns are among the smallest 4-8-4s, so bashing anything else into one is not a happy job.
  15. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member


    That's interesting because my family and I had a good look at the Northern that's located at the CNE grounds this summer. To us, it appeared HUGE especially compared to the British steamers that we've seen. It was not only apparently longer but taller. So, to see one of these Santa Fe type Northerns much be truly impressive!

    I took some pics of the CNE Northern that I could post sometime.

    Cheers, Rob
  16. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

  17. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    Thanks! I asked a similar question on The Gauge 1-2 years ago. Someone here posted a pic of the Flying Scotsman (when it was over here on its North American Tour) sitting next to a CN Hudson, so something similar. The Scotsman was quite small compared to the Hudson -- the size difference was quite striking.


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