MAJOR theft in San Antonio from Model RR dealer

Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by siderod, Jun 8, 2004.

  1. siderod

    siderod Member

    This just recieved from a friend of a friend...George Canham and Debra Babb of Wig-Wag

    If you see anyone with these models, let the police know! :mad: :curse: :cry: :eek: :(
  2. jsolie

    jsolie Member

    :mad: :curse: :mad: :curse: :mad: :eek:

    Didn't wig-wag's business just turn two?
  3. BDC

    BDC Member

    Yes, just last month. It's a real shame that this happened, too.
  4. Matthyro

    Matthyro Will always be re-membered

    Always someone trying to make a big buck. Hope these theives get caught
  5. brakie

    brakie Active Member

    Guys, I truly doubt if this was a grab and run rip off seeing that all of the stolen goods was top quality and I suspect these outlaws was not armatures.. With e bay,train shows and such like I doubt if the outlaws will be caught..That yellow price tag can be easily removed and each item can be sold over a long time period without drawing any suspicion or attention and from any state after all it was ripped off at a train show next to a Interstate highway.. :( Sadly with other major crimes I doubt if the Police will be working 24/7 on that case..
  6. Pitchwife

    Pitchwife Dreamer

    Might I suggest that we all keep our eyes pealed for items that are selling well below their true value. If we all join in a "neighborhood watch" perhaps the thieves will give themselves away. Perhaps if a more complete list were posted enough eyes might turn something up.
  7. SD90

    SD90 Active Member

    I'll definatley be watching for any of these products stolen from George, I don't know if someone would be stupid enough to try and sell this stuff right away, but if I see any of it, I'll be sure to let George know right away. It would be a good idea for all of us to do the same. It's a shame that there are people who would do this in our hobby, I guess no hobby would be free of this kind of thing, but we would like to think so.
  8. Tileguy

    Tileguy Member

    To George & Debbie, Sorry for your Loss and the stress's associated with it.Its unfortunate that a few can ruin our freedoms and upset our lives without so much as a by your leave.Its unconscionable and i hope some shred of light gets these predetors caught.

    I ,like Brakie feel that in this day and age ,the advent of ebay and other sources for international sales minimizes the exposure of these crooks.

    On the brite side however,if they do sell and transport out of the state they stole from,it becomes a federal offense and carries much stiffer penelties.
    Might i suggest the following.

    #1- Make a list of some of the very specialized items taken( a couple dozen should be enough) Add the serial numbers to the list.Make several hundred copies for distribution.

    #2- call a few of the top retailers in the US and Canada that do a large trade and find out if they have any customers that collect these types of specialzed pieces.(dont ask for names, ask if they will send a mailing out to thier customer with the stolen specialized inventory)

    This will take a bit of time but will not be an inordinate amount.The other retailers for certain have an interest in catching these types of thieves also.You may be able to reach as many as 500-1000 specialty customers with a small list which is manageable.
    Now for the offer.

    Offer anyone who purchases a piece that is on the list that item + an additional reward for information leading to the arrest of the swine who ripped you off.
    Ask your insurance company about a rewards program.Most have some type of system in place.

    Also, contact the major publications and give them a short listing of the very specialized pieces.While this is all still a long shot, it will increase the odds of ferreting out those responsible,or at the very least limit thier gains by making some of those big dollar items to risky to peddle.

    Good Luck to you and i hope they make a mistake and are brought to justice.
  9. spitfire

    spitfire Active Member

    I think Brakie hit the nail on the head when he suggested these items may turn up on eBay. As Tileguy suggests a list of some of the rarer and more traceable items (those with serial numbers) should be distributed to all the model RR forum members, here, Trainboard, All Model RRing etc. so we can be on the lookout.
    Unfortunately, the seller may just claim he/she bought it from someone else, but at least it's a start.
    I hope that whoever did this will be apprehended and forced to make restitution, plus an appropriate punishment, such as 10 years laying ballast!
    No mention of insurance in Siderod's post - were they covered?

  10. ezdays

    ezdays Out AZ way


    Just so you know, possession of stolen goods is a criminal offense regardless of how they claim they got it. If the rightful owners can prove it is theirs, they can lose it and the money they paid for it, or worse, they can be prosecuted for possession even if it was bought on eBay. It is hopeful that these people leave a paper or electronic trail so they can be found if and when they try to dispose of this stuff.
  11. rcwatkins

    rcwatkins Member

    Hey it could be an INTERNATIONAL theft ring because of the location that the items were stolen. Train robbers steal model trains in SA, they head for the border and sell the items on the black market in Mexico. :eek: They really need to be caught. I went to their website recently and they didn't mention (as far as I could tell) the thefts.

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