Hi Shane, I checked with Walters several times and that company has'nt made flat cars in four years. Gloor Craft models also made them but not in several years. Walthers in fact made logging cars for there lumber company and they hav'nt made them in two years. Just today I found out from another forum that a company named Small Scale Logistics makes two different flat cars. They also make a Shay N- scale steam engine to my surprise. Does anyone know anything about this company and how good there products are. Thanks for the help.