German Pre-war High Speed Trains

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  1. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Active Member

    This looked interesting: ​



    1935 61-001 streamlined 2-cylinder 4-6-4

    designed to pull the Henschel-Wegmann train


    Panorama coach of the Henschel-Wegmann train


    1937 61-002 streamlined 3-cylinder 4-6-6
    designed to pull the Henschel-Wegmann train

    The Henschel-Wegmann Train was an attempt to build a railcar-like high-speed steam-powered train based on the similar record-holder Borsig 05-002.

    It consisted of the 61-001 4-6-4 type locomotive and four carriages and ran the Dresden-Berlin route in the mid-thirties until stopped in 1940 by the fighting of World War II. Even though an even more efficient streamlined 61-002 had been built, the disruption of the war brought an end to all German high-speed passenger service and record attempts to an end by 1942.







    BORSIG 05-002



    Deutsche Reichsbahn 4-6-4 Baureihe 05
    (excluding cab-forward 05-003)

    Built: 1935
    Total weight including tender: 212 tons
    Number Built: 2 (Numbers 05-001 and 05-002)
    Fuel: Coal
    Fire grate area: 50.5 sq ft
    Cylinders: 3, 18" x 26"
    Max hp: 3,400+
    Driving Wheels: 90.6" diameter
    Boiler Pressure: 290 psi
    Withdrawn Rebuilt: 1950
    Withdrawn: 1958, 05-001 preserved

    In 1935, Borsig built a streamlined
    4-6-4 type 05-002 which was one of two locomotives designed for high speed tests (predominantly by 05- 002), and a Berlin-Hamburg service.

    During the period of 1935-1936 the 05-002 made an impressive number of fast runs, earning it the title of “The World’s Fastest Steam Train”. Authentic records of so many fast runs exist for no other steam locomotive anywhere. Nine times over 110 mph, five times over 115 mph and twice over 120 mph! And many runs at over 100 mph.

    Finally, on May 11, 1936 on the Hamburg to Berlin run at Friesack 05-002 hit 200.4 km/h (124.5 mph) at 197 tons!

    Despite it's record achievements, it was scrapped due to the war - sister locomotive 05-001 being retained for the GermanRailwayMuseum at Nürnberg.
  2. nachoman

    nachoman Guest

    very odd.
  3. chooch.42

    chooch.42 Member

    Interesting indeed, MM. Did your source identify the model shown?...and what led your curiosity off in such direction? I had no idea such locos existed. :confused:Bob C.
  4. tetters

    tetters Rail Spiking Fool!

    It doesn't even look like a steamer. Very cool!
  5. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

  6. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Active Member

    The model is not specifically identified. As far as I can tell, it is a model of the actual high-speed prototype that went into actual service on the Berlin route in the '30's.

    I often follow links just to see just where they eventually lead me, since I have a very wide range of interests. Every so often, something like this turns up. I reached this site while following links to sites dedicated to the unusual military and civilian inventions and experimental prototypes produced by Germany from the 30's until 1945.

    If you would like the site address, let me know and I will post it, although much of the material will probably not be of any interest to model railroaders.
  7. Dave Harris

    Dave Harris Member

    Does it sort of remind you of a beached whale? stooges8
  8. N Gauger

    N Gauger 1:20.3 Train Addict

    really interesting stuff!! And yeah - I like the newer version of the 61 002! :D

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