A river is about to appear

Discussion in 'HO Scale Model Trains' started by interurban, Mar 21, 2004.

  1. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    I have not tried this for a few years, But with the new Woodland easy water I will try for a decent river .
    This is the start of it:p

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  2. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    :) I will have some drain pipes from the above section and trickles of water coming down the rock face into the river:)

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  3. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    The river comes from the little bridge under the stone wall.
    Got to give it a name,,,,hhhhhhmmmmmm???????
    More as I progress:wave:

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  4. 60103

    60103 Pooh Bah

    You can make some economical drain pipes from the "flexible" straws. Just cut it at the flexible part and it looks like corrugated pipe. You get about 3/8". I think it looks best if you don't pull on it. I make a hole in the scenery and push the bit of straw in -- use the plain straw to make the hole and for an anchor. I then paint mine grimy black inside and out.
    They're very handy to explain bits of scenery where I gouged out too much with the hot wire.
  5. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    :) Thankyou David I had not thought of that,, sounds just the thing,:thumb:
  6. spitfire

    spitfire Active Member

    Chris, I really like the idea of the trickles of water feeding in. I've heard of people making them from coating clear fishing line with "Realistic Water". Have you ever tried this?

  7. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    Hi Val, no I havent, as this is my first attempt anything can :( and will:D happen.
    I bought the late`st Wood land water rippel/ water fall effect stuff for the rambling stream/river effect, thought I might try that but it will proberly end up being Niagra falls:D :D :D :D
    But Trickle effect is what I want.
    Thanks Val.:thumb:
  8. spitfire

    spitfire Active Member

    Chris, you're probably already planning to do this, but if not, you should probably do a small test to get the hang of it first.

    Gary did a really nice river and explained his technique here

    I'm pretty sure there are some other threads right here at The Gauge about water modelling.

    Good luck! Can't wait to see how it turns out!

  9. Ralph

    Ralph Remember...it's for fun!

    I've seen people use clear calk for "trickles" down rocks. For water coming out of pipes some folks cut a piece of clear scotch tape leading from the pipe to the ground or pool below and then dribble acrylic gloss medium down it. I've never used the Woodland Scenes product but maybe when its melted you could eye dropper it down (?) Water effects are always cool! Best wishes!

    David, the straw idea is BRILLIANT! :thumb:
  10. Climax1880

    Climax1880 Member

    It's been a few years for me too, working with Envirotex but (and I may be mistaken) I think I read somewhere that for ripples, you could use a heat gun or hair dryer and this will cause the Envirotex to ripple. You might try a small experimental area first, as Val said and see what happens. (As usual, if you use your wife's hair dryer and it breaks, this author will disavow any knowledge of this advice or thread content.):rolleyes: :D
  11. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    Thanks for the info guys,, I to was weary about this venture.
    But here is the new water product.
    No heating just pour, will set up to 1/8th deep and self level.
    The smaller bottle is used for water falls and such,
    check out woodlands web sit.

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  12. Lighthorseman

    Lighthorseman Active Member

    It'll be great!

    Looking forward to seeing how this turns out! :thumb:

    I've heard of strips of acetate covered with clear caulking being used to simulate everything from waterfalls to trickles down rocks, but have never had the guts to try.
  13. Ralph

    Ralph Remember...it's for fun!

    No heating!?! That's a good improvement of that product! Hmmmm, I look forward to your review!
  14. jim currie

    jim currie Active Member

    looking like a fine start Chris never used the new water stuff but have used spar varnish thined down with auto thinner for trickel's of water.:thumb:
    as for a name looks like the little snake to me:D
  15. Matthyro

    Matthyro Will always be re-membered

    An ambitious project Chris. Looking forward to seeing how the river develops.
  16. Fred_M

    Fred_M Guest

    Or them strings from your hot melt glue gun. FRED
  17. Gary Pfeil

    Gary Pfeil Active Member

    Hi Chris, I like your rock face and the stone wall looks great! A river along them will look super. I've tried the fishing line approach and wasn't too happy with it, tho that could just be me and givng up on it too soon. Doesn't mean others couldn't get better results! Also, I was trying for a short falls, not runoff from say storm drains. The WS water effects is what I wound up using, approach is detailed in the link Val provided. Thanks Val! Climax1880 wrote about using heat to ripple Envirotex, I think he is thinking of resin. I've never used resin but I think I remeber reading or being told that heat will cause it to ripple during setting. At the time I was told resins appearance was superior to that of Envirotex, but that it stinks up the house. So I went with Envirotex. Ripples are easy with Envirotex, but time consuming, read that link. One thing I hadn't mentioned in the previous thread is that tiny air bubbles get in the Envirotex from stirring. Careful stirring will minimize this, and using the flame from a lighter will cause them to disappear after pouring in the river bed. If you have a hobby torch that would be better than the lighter. Just hold the flame an inch or so over the bubbles and they go away. Be careful of course, but I had no problem with the foam or styrene bridges I was under!
  18. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    Hi Gary,, I printed out your step by step and I have it downstairs for when I am ready to test a few things,, Thanks.
    Got to get the painting done first!!
    The new stuff has to be max 1/8 in depth for it to set,, That`s the instructions,,,,,:D :D :D :D gonna bend that a bit:D :D :D :D
    I hope to start the painting this week end.

    I need a willow tree,,,, OOOOOO how I need a willow tree!!!!!
    That would realy set that scene alive

    Anybody??????anybody?????:p :p :p :p
  19. spitfire

    spitfire Active Member

    Chris, here's a tree-making technique I read about that would be ideal for willows. Basically, you take a bundle of thin gauge wire, twist the bundle together at the bottom, then from there you twist in gradually diminishing numbers of strands to form branches. If you did this, then curved all the branches down in that characteristic willow droop, it shoud work well. You paint the wire brown, then spray the branches with hairspray or glue, and dip into ground foam.

    Here's a link

    :D Val
  20. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    Thanks for the info Val,, I got me work cut out now:D :D :D :D
    Good job there is no time limit:wave:

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