What old time lines operated in your state and are now gone?

Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by Gil Finn, May 13, 2007.

  1. Gil Finn

    Gil Finn Active Member

    Other than or ecluding short line and industrail lines what general passenger and freight railroads can you recal? I may of encluded some out of my rail road ingorance.

    I know in VA there was the Orange & Alecanda.

    WVa had the Pitsburg and WVa, The B&O of course, but that is still with us as CSX.

    There was the Kanawha and Michigan, Buffalo Creek & Gauley but that might habe been more industrial and one who also served the puplic. Also a Kanawha and Ohio.

    The WM and the Davis, Elkins and Thoms, roots of the WM I think

    That is all I can think of.
  2. Jac's Lines

    Jac's Lines Member

    Within 25 miles of where I live now, outside of Rochester NY, there were:

    New York Central
    Lehigh Valley

    Most of these I think got folded into the mergers. Today there's just CSX (with all sorts of rail maintenance problems) and a shortline that delivers corn syrup and grain to food producers.
    I wish I could go back to the heyday of big steam in the 1930s or 40s.
  3. Renovo PPR

    Renovo PPR Just a Farmer

  4. eightyeightfan1

    eightyeightfan1 Now I'm AMP'd

    Here in Connecticut, mostly the New Haven.
    But after that, there was the Penn Central, then the Boston and Maine, Conrail, Amtrack and the Providence and Worster.
    There's also one of the two only U.S. Army Rail Transportation Companies.
  5. N Gauger

    N Gauger 1:20.3 Train Addict

    C&O and PRR
  6. railohio

    railohio Active Member

    What you missed in West Virginia:

    The K&M was a subsidiary of the Toledo & Ohio Central which became a part of the New York Central which became a part of Penn Central which became a part of Conrail (The portion in West Virginia is now owned by Pennsylvania Lines LLC, a subsidiary of Norfolk Southern.)

    Figuring just larger railroads, you also missed the Chesapeake & Ohio, Norfolk & Western, Virginian, Pittsburgh & West Virginia, original Wheeling & Lake Erie (through the WB&T subsidiary) and Pennsylvania, not to mention all their predecessors.

    In recent memory there was also Watco's ill-fated Appalachian & Ohio that shut down after less than a year, being turned over to a new operator that's affiliated with Kentucky's Paducah & Louisville.

    That's not including all the shortlines you told us to exclude.

  7. Gil Finn

    Gil Finn Active Member

    I am impressed.

    I didnt know the N&W was gone.

    I never think of the C&O as being gone, it runs behind my house all the time no matter what color the engines are or the name says.
  8. Squidbait

    Squidbait Recovering ALCO-holic

    Here in Ontario we used to have (in my lifetime), the Toronto, Hamilton and Buffalo (sucked into Canadian Pacific), the New York Central (sucked into Penn Central and then Conrail), Pere Marquette (sucked into the Chesapeake and Ohio, then sucked into CSX), the Wabash (sucked into the N&W, sucked into NS), Canadian National (now neither Canadian, nor National... now it's CN North America :p).
  9. CRed

    CRed Member

    Hmm lets see...

    Lake Superior & Mississippi
    Rock Island
    Great Northern
    Northern Pacific
    St Louis & MPLS
    Duluth,Winnipeg & Pacific
    Milwaukee Road
    Wisconsin Central

    That's all I can think of off the top of my head,there may be more.

  10. railohio

    railohio Active Member

    Where did the C&O run to Pennsylvania... or were you replying to Gil's post about West Virginia? :oops:

  11. bigsteel

    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

    these are some OLD RR's in cincinnati.
    1. the cleveland,columbus,and cincinnati RR
    2. marietta&cincinnati RR
    those are the old truly old time RR's i know.besides the C&O,B&O,etc...all i know is there were alot running through union station in the 40's and 50's.--josh
  12. BMRR

    BMRR New Member

    Southern Railway, which is now part of Norfolk Southern.

  13. toptrain1

    toptrain1 Member

    Hudson County, New Jersey

    Here In Bayonne NJ gone are the Jersey Central, Reading, B&O.Just north in Jersey City,and North Bergen gone are these three plus the Lehigh Valley, Ontario And Western, Erie, Pennsylvania, and The New York Central. Over in Newark you can add The Lackawanna and the Delaware and Western.
  14. MasonJar

    MasonJar It's not rocket surgery

    Within my lifetime, in southern Ontario, the major Canadian roads are/were:

    Canadian National
    Canadian Pacific
    Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo (TH&B)
    VIA Rail (passenger traffic of CN and CP)

    Of these, CNR, CPR, and VIA remain.

    But the shortlines are coming back, sometimes where shortlins originally existed before being absorbed into one of the big two...

    My hometown example is both the Credit Valley Railway and the Toronto Grey & Bruce ran into Orangeville before (through a series of complicated take-overs) being absorbed into the CPR. CPR then abandoned this line approximately 100 years later, only to see it resurrected as the Orangeville-Brampton Railway (OBRY).

  15. joesho

    joesho Member

    well, can only think of two for vancouver thats the bcr (british columbia electric) which ran all through out the lowermain land ended in 1952.then theres via rail and cn,although some times for some reason i see UP BN SF BN
  16. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

    The old Great Northern ran a little ways into southern BC, so that's probably why you're seeing BNSF around.

    In Alberta, the main fallen flag I can think of is the Northern Alberta Railway, and that's not actually nearby.
  17. joesho

    joesho Member

    i can think of another one!world famous....i think, the kettle valley rr
  18. sacval2

    sacval2 New Member

    Here in Northern California;
    Sacramento Valley RR (First in the West)
    Central Pacific RR
    California Central RR
    California Pacific RR
    Diamond & Caldor RR
    Sacramento, Auburn and Nevada RR
    Western Pacific RR (1865)
    and Southern Pacific RR just to named a few.
  19. railohio

    railohio Active Member

    Burlington Northern
    Santa Fe
    Northwestern Pacific (occasionally)
  20. Ralph

    Ralph Remember...it's for fun!

    Minneapolis and St. Louis for one....

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