Walter Schirra Memorial Mercury Model

Discussion in 'Space & Aeronautics' started by Bengt F, May 6, 2007.

  1. airbob

    airbob Member

    One of the things that the memory of this era brings back was the quest for education in the sciences that was being pushed in the U.S. at the time...It is sad that we have no like projects (and heroes like Wally) at this time to fuel the imagination of today's young people:cry: ....maybe your "moonport project" and this free model will help to "lite some fires"!!!:wink:
  2. Bengt F

    Bengt F Active Member

    Good point, Bob,

    As a matter of fact, our very own (first) Swedish astronaut Christer Fuglesang (living in the US, mission specialist on the latest 'Discovery' STS-116 space shuttle mission) has already generated a lot of interest among young people here in Sweden.

    Christer, who was a scholar at the Royal Swedish Technical University, has talked a lot about how important it is that students learn the natural sciences and tries to inspire them to follow that road.

  3. airbob

    airbob Member

    Yeah Christer!!!....glad to see some fires getting "lit" over there.....we all need Heroes!!!....:grin:
  4. Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett

    Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett Active Member


    Tell Me if This is what We want for the exterior, (Flight & Post Flight),

  5. MOS95B

    MOS95B Member

  6. SAustin16

    SAustin16 Member


    Your Mercury skins are GORGEOUS !!!

    Do you have any interest in an eventual design adventure on Gemini? Gemini 6 perhaps? I'd do it myself, but I just don't have the software skills and artistry that you possess.

    P.S. Maybe I missed it, but what scale are you thinking for Mercury?
  7. Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett

    Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett Active Member


    Lets put it to a vote! What Scale should it be published? As for Gemini, (Yes I will do that series too, (I need to get Moonport finished first)). I am still held up on the Soyuz, (Need a better picture for the lettering & flag placement). The Skylab final will be out next week too.

  8. SAustin16

    SAustin16 Member

    Astonaut Design

    Carl and Company,

    I've been slowly working on an astronaut that will fit the seats in the Moonport CM. He's not finished, and is still rather crude (what early astronaut wasn't ? LOL), but I'm trying to figure out how to give him a more refined design and more detail. I probably need to keep him fairly simple to be assembled in 1:32 scale.

    He's designed in Sketchup and unfolded in Pepakura. This is my first attempt using both programs, as you can probably tell. He probably wouldn't need too much adaptation to be suitable for Mercury and Gemini.
  9. Bengt F

    Bengt F Active Member

    Mercury Capsule Scale Suggestion

    Hi Carl,

    Re. the scale of the new Mercury model:
    I think that either 1:32 (the same as the Apollo CM) or 1:16 (the same as the LunarRovingVehicle) would be fine.
    I like the larger scale very much - it gives you the option to downscale if you´d like a smaller model but at the same time you are not limited by the printer if you´d like to make a larger, more detailed model.
    The final choice is yours, of course, based on how you design the sheets.

    In short, my vote is for 1:16 scale. That would also be quite close to the Atomic City Mercury model, which is 1:12.

    Bengt :D
  10. Bengt F

    Bengt F Active Member

    Mercury Exterior Sheets


    The exterior sheets for the Mercury capsule design looks great!
    Personally, I´d favor just a a tad darker gray-black color, though. Not much, just a tad.

    Otherwise, it´s very nice. It gives you the option to 'deep-imboss' the horizontal Mercury steel plate reinforcement line pattern in the printed sheets, if you like to.

    All the best,
    Bengt :D
  11. jparenti

    jparenti Member

    SAustin, good idea. We need pilots (a lot of them, I imagine, since I already have an SM, Skylab is in the works, and Soyuz is next). I'll need ten or twelve of the little guys pretty soon. :)
    Carl, that's a beautiful skin. Just let me know what scale to print it in to match the 1/32 Apollo, and I can do a comparison diorama when you finish. One day I'll finish Greelt's Saturn V and I'll be able to have my own little museum.
    And thanks always to MOS95B for letting us use his server as a meeting place. ;)
  12. Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett

    Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett Active Member

    Bengt & Steve


    I will change the color to be a bit darker, (I think You have a good point there). I will do a test plot, (on 8 1/2 x 11), at 1:16th, (To see how the wrap fits). I want to keep it in one part, (One seam). If it fits 1:16th it would be fine for better detail, (and 1:32 would be a a simple reduce plot, (to match the Apollo CM, (And future Gemini)). The thrusters will Be optioned for cut-out too, (Some folks may want to have the indented like the real hardware, (I do)). Do You think The post flight color is correct/close to the real deal? I just got Your email on the pictures, (I will review them and report back).

    Thanks for the ideas, and review!


    Please private Message Me for My email, (If You don't already have it). I think You may be on the right track. Please share Youre files, (Do You have them in .dwg, .dxf, .pdf, or .cdr, (If not then a jpg, will do))? We may be able to work with what You have started, (If You don't mind Me taking up the torch, (or just helping You with Research)). A little tweeking, and We can round that out, and paint it. It may end up being a bit stylized/hako, (But the paint detail can make up for that). Slitting the legs & rounding it out, should do the trick. Micheal Haggard, Who runs Albion Rising, has a "Major Matt Mason", (That would Be a great start too). I will email Him see what He thinks. It would be great to have a basic form, That could Be painted/scaled/option modified, for all these projects. Even little Pad Rats, for the Launch Complex's, (LOL).

    See This Link, (For Major Matt): P.M..html

    Thanks for all The help Guys, (This is a group effort, (Remember, there is no I, in team))! This is turning into a real team, (with a dream)!!


    And now for something compl. diff., (LOL):

    King of Swamp Castle;

    "When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said
    I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it
    all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp.
    So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp.
    So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank
    into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up.
    And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest
    castle in all of England."

    We are going to Build the Strongest Card Castle Yet, (LOL)!
  13. Bengt F

    Bengt F Active Member

    Mercury Post-flight Color Tone Suggestion

    Hi Carl,

    Thank you for the kind words - I hope the close-up photos of the Atomic City Mercury model will be useful to you. It´s fun to be able to give feedback and suggestions.

    Re. the color of the post-flight version:
    I looked at your plate. I´d definitely like it a bit darker and parhaps a bit 'burnt' by the re-entry in the atmosphere.
    I tried a bit 'burnt sienna' amber-brown (and played around a bit with the window, just for kicks) - it came out a little bit too red, and too brown, on the screen but just to give you an idea; here´s a very rough suggestion:


    All the best,
    Bengt :D

    PS. One thing more; make sure that the color shades meet up OK at the seam/joint. Other than that, very very nice!
  14. airbob

    airbob Member

    Not to disrupt this great effort...the skin that appears on Benght comment on page 2 of this thread as appears on the Kartonblau site has a little diffuse white band under each louver that gives this skin a much more real there any way that this can be incorporated into this effort?....wet blanket Bob:twisted:
  15. Bengt F

    Bengt F Active Member

    Louvers Or Not, That Is The Question

    I see what you mean, Bob,

    That would be the 'shadow-rendering' department. Either that (for a flat surface card model) or some method of embossing all the lines from the printed side with some rounded, blunt tool of the required thickness over a softer mat - like a knitting pin/needle.
    That is one option I would like to try myself, to get an even more realistic 3-D texture.

    Bengt :D

    PS: I think you would get an even better effect of this embossing method if you use a somewhat semi-gloss or 'pearl paper surface . . .
  16. Bengt F

    Bengt F Active Member

    Launch Escape Tower and Heat Shield Cushion


    I was thinking - another interesting detail that you could add for the post-flight version, besides the orange-red tower for the flight version, is the extendable bellows 'cushion' under the heat shield, that was designed to absorb most of the shock of the impact on the Atlantic Ocean. I just read the part of "The Right Stuff" by Tom Wolfe, where he describes the flight of Alan Shepard in "Freedom 7" and the merits of this ingenious device.
    I guess it could be done as a simple gray-brown paper cylinder, which could also serve as a display base for the post-flight version (after being hoisted up onto the carrier ship´s deck). Or, it could be made out of some supple material, like cloth . . .

    An option that I have often thought about as a display base for a flight version is the upper part of the Atlas rocket - a simple, serrated dull black cylinder. If you´d like a bigger display base, just add a silver cone.

    How will you deal with all this input, is what I wonder . . . poor Carl.

    Take care,
    Bengt :D
  17. Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett

    Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett Active Member

    The Bag will be a option

    I mentioned earlier that I would include the Landing Bag, (It will be a option). I have already drawn the full model with it. The line of rivets between the hatch and the window, need to be in the background too, (Just noticed it, (My error)). The colors are going to be adjusted, and reposted for a review, (Sometime today). The rear of the interior, and the hoses, (For the vent, & pressure, of suit), are finished too, (Would be nice have the astro, (sigh...)). The skin will be detailed for Wally's Mission, (But I will save the master, for later Missions, (After Moon Port, (Unless someone wants the master files to continue the series, while I finish Moonport)). I could also go on and work up a master set of files for Gemini, (and hand it off to someone for the series production too).

    I have no ego on this. It would be great to have these sets published in a spiral, with the Moon Port Hardware, (Since Apollo was dev. in the back ground of Merc., & Gemini, (In the real world)).

    If not I will come back to these projects later.

    Thanks for all the input,

  18. airbob

    airbob Member

    I been piddling with this...but my efforts are not having the desired can see my sup-optimal efforts here :???:
  19. Peter P

    Peter P New Member

    you can have the texture files i´ve made if you want,because i have no time at the moment to finish this great project.
    you are doing a great job ,and it will be a honour for me to share my drawings with youthat you can finish this great project.
    i dont know if you can use it,because my attempt at was not finished,but you have to take one panel,and use it for the whole capsule.
    to whom i can send my drawing files?i think it will help you alot.
    i also have a lot of pics and technical drawings of the capsules....
    greetings from vienna,
  20. Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett

    Carl (Surfduke) Hewlett Active Member

    Send Me a pm

    I will give You My email adress.



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