U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 from uhu02 and makino

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by d5j4vu, Aug 8, 2015.

  1. d5j4vu

    d5j4vu New Member

    I've been seeing at this beauty since my girlfriend saw it (she's a Startrek fan. Well, not so much a Kirk fan, she thinks he's kind a punk. Anyway..) and now that i have time (and taken courage, have to say it) i'll go with this enterprise:).

    I hace many doubts, but one in particular with the paper. I would like you people to give me some advice about it.. i have matte inkjet papper, 120 gr and 150 gr. Which one will be better in your opinions?

    I'll wait for your advices. Well, i'll do, in the other hand my printer is a little anxoius, mouth open waiting for the paper;)

    Thanks in advance.
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  2. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator

    I always use 160 gsm paper. IMO this offers the best mix of stability and flexibility. So I would go with the 150 gsm paper. :)
  3. Millenniumfalsehood

    Millenniumfalsehood Active Member

    My advice: print it up in the lighter paper first, determine which parts are structural parts by seeing which ones will be bearing the most weight (the neck and nacelle pylons are the obvious areas), then print those parts in heavier paper. Any structural members (blank parts that will be inside the model and serve as strengtheners) should be laminated to heavier cardboard.
  4. zathros

    zathros SENIOR Administrator

    Kirk is such a "Ham" on Star Trek. When he is William Shatner, and talks about Horses, and you get to see the real person, he becomes an admiral guy. He is an excellent equestrian. I love horses, and ride quite a bit myself. :)
  5. THE DC

    THE DC Member

    Kirk was the template.

    Its easy to see the template from modern eyes, whatever modern is. After all, that which we comfortably consider advanced will look quite mundane and simplistic within a few years.

    I guess I just don't step on Hercules, any hercules, toes.
  6. zathros

    zathros SENIOR Administrator

    Even when I was a kid I though "Kirk" was a "Ham", but considering the complete lack of "serious" Sci-Fi, and that the rest of the crew played it pretty straight, makes that show a founding series of Sci-Fi T.V.. Funny thing though, I did like William Shatners portrayal of Kirk in the movies. His acting had matured, and back then I felt the same way. I think the TOS Star Trek movies are also classics too, for the same reasons. It atempted to stay on the science plane, and keep fantasy out of it, even though, Sci-Fi Fantasy has it's place, and a good one, i.e. Star Wars, etc.. :)
  7. THE DC

    THE DC Member

    I agree with his maturation and I look back to his work during the first season as his best. in the series. A lot of people don't remember the subtlety of those first episodes performance, especially when he was reserved in portraying stress, as episodes like The Enemy Within draw the attention to his alter Kirk more than the more subtle counterpart.

    You're right, its hard to compare old trek with anything of the time which is why i give it cred. Much of what we take for granted today, most especially that sic-fi could be portrayed as a serious effort to engage the mind, was spawned between the limited effects and resources of that period.

    And even today, very few sic fi projects are gutsy enough to question the effects of religion, childhood morality, racism, and other hot button issues as that little , three season series. I have talked to many people who watch those episodes and still don't get the underlying point of each. In that way, it is still very much ahead of its time and I give Shatner, Nimoy, Kelly and the rest, and the hidden visionaries of Roddenberry, Coon, and peers who tried to make something out of a vacuum of intelligent storytelling.

    Until I stick my neck out there, on the camera or behind it, my respect to those who have trod where I have yet ventured.
  8. zathros

    zathros SENIOR Administrator

    Star Trek was way ahead of it's time. It showed that Black people did sure into the future, and in a big way. That shows short run did more to change television, and social mores/morals did that Star Wars could ever dream of. IMHO. :)
  9. spaceagent-9

    spaceagent-9 Right Hand Man and Confidant

    it was colorful, indignant, and showed things that no one dared. god like beings that were once men, blacks kissing whites. women smart and in power. aliens that were friendly and better, smarter, with no crippling emotions. doctors drinking and no smoking. women were sexy and essential. black people making insane computers that killed whole other equal ships, instead of putting air in people's tires, Russians. I don't know what could follow the template these days. we lived lives we never could thru those episodes, even in the re-runs ten years later from the original. lost in space just celebrated 50 years of loyal fandom. UFO, star trek, the invaders, planet of the apes even Land of the lost, lol, will soon follow. its more that retro-recollection, its part of history. what was going on back then? women burning their bras, getting to vote and divorce at will, earning equal pay for equal work , being allowed to work in ''men's'' fields. not being barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen mostly. sesame street to teach children what the schools were failing to do. busing children to schools of their economic and color levels. Vietnam vets coming home. acid rock. nudity in movies. long hair. beards. burning draft cards hell no we wont go. a real look at some of asia and the Philippines besides what jerry lewis had to show us. pollution and fighting against pollution drug gurus like timothy Leary. landing on the moon. the end of the world from nuclear war. free sex or love as they called it. smoking weed and dropping out, living in abandoned houses in communes to avoid being ''the man''. saying ''like'' like a million times like in one sentence like, ya know/ groovy. police brutality. riding motorcycles. peace marches. vw bugs. all the taboos of the under-culture suddenly being at the dinner tale conversations. non of that stuff was ever in your face before 1965 much. what could be like star trek today? I don't know. our entire perspective changed and was elevated to a new level that we cant go back to ever again by the crew of star trek living out their adventures. sorry to preach. great job on the model by the way , again.
  10. THE DC

    THE DC Member

    I too am looking forward to your build thread and what I can learn from it.

    I also agree with the previous two sentiments. TOS is no longer a form of entertainment but has become, rightfully, modern myth. While the greeks shared Odysseus to learn of the values of cleverness and persistence, they tuned into McCoy to experience thoughtful humanity. Where Beowulf taught cultural values of courage, Spock represented for our age reason over destructive passions. And where Cuchulain inspired his listeners to value persistence and integrity, Kirk, yes, often parodied Kirk, stood for a generation of males to stay the course and to lead toward the betterment of his moving world (and never lead from behind...).

    It isn't nostalgia that keeps Trek relevant, it is that the stories, the characters, and the questions that it presented are still being bantered about, even today.

    We need Star Trek, or a bold cousin, to challenge our comfort zone today. We need to think. We need to press ourselves beyond the confines of this atmosphere.

    We need a bold trek, beyond our ever shrinking world.
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  11. zathros

    zathros SENIOR Administrator

    Kirk represented the right of men to have the best seat in front of the T.V., and have God-like control over the remote control. The ability to have pretty Yeoman bring him his beverage of desire. TO sleep with those Yeoman, if he so desired, and to journey, in his living room, and pork every bi-pedal creature that seemed feminine to him. The old days, now that I'm married, their gone. Though I still have the best set in the house, a 200" inch screen, and mastery of the remote. I even get beverages brought to me, upon quite a few occasion, and still pork the Yoeman. :)
  12. spaceagent-9

    spaceagent-9 Right Hand Man and Confidant

    I just want Finney in the pod so I can eject it during a yellow alert!

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