TV/Railroad Accuracy

Discussion in 'HO Scale Model Trains' started by David Rosser, Jan 19, 2004.

  1. Lightbender

    Lightbender Member

    Hello Nscale4,
    This fountain of virtual prototype information is invaluable to those H0 modellers who like to do everything wrong correctly.

    I have now discovered that I have a totally valid and realistic model railway that is as believable as the ideas of the big boys in Hollywood with their mega million budgets. All I need is to finish my LPB H0 film crew and I'm a prototype modeller.


    Thanks guys for making this an acceptable modelling scene. Yes it is motorised but it doesn't fit through all of my portals. Sad isn't it.
  2. Medicine Man

    Medicine Man Member

    Did anybody else see "Atomic Train" on the tube about 2 1/2 year's ago. Very nice close shot's of the train,but the script was "STUPID".
    In a nut shell: US Army ships a nuke without telling anybody. Also in this boxcar are several 45 gal drums of some fluid the combusts on contact with water..Low and behold the train becomes a "runnaway" somehere east of LA. Fun watching them chase this train trying to stop it(at one point at a mountain peak is doing less than 10 mph!!!). They finally stop it by de-railing it just out side Denver with the inevitable fire's.Water bomber sent to put out the fire's incuding boxcar with nuke an drum's. Water hits fluid,drum's explode,sets off nuke, and "BOOM" the mile high city become's the mile deep crater.

    YUP!! Just like in real life.

  3. svacon

    svacon New Member

  4. Flangehead

    Flangehead Member

    Hollywood still thinks most trains whistle, even diesels.Maybe it's not such a bad idea.
  5. Alan Bickley

    Alan Bickley Member

    Going ever-so-slightly off topic, but I remember watching a re-run of an episode of "Airwolf" a while ago, and in it, there was a scene where a C 130 transport plane was starting up and the producers put the sound of PISTON engines over it!
    Could I stop laughing?!:D :D :D
  6. Gary Pfeil

    Gary Pfeil Active Member

    But, a C130 does have props. What kind of engine turns them if not one with pistons?
  7. svacon

    svacon New Member

  8. Gary Pfeil

    Gary Pfeil Active Member

    I see, thanks!
  9. Alan Bickley

    Alan Bickley Member

    I should have said. Good job there's other aircraft fans out there!:rolleyes:
  10. jetrock

    jetrock Member

    Personally I find myself amused when I see freight trains in Westerns pulling steel-sided 50-foot boxcars. HBO did a made-for-cable "Pancho Villa" movie that featured lots of railroad action, and despite the era of the film (circa 1912) the boxcars they used were all steel-sided...I didn't know N de M had a modernization program that early!
  11. neilmunck

    neilmunck Member

    Or in "Emporer of the North", already mentioned, there is a bit where the two hobos are on the top of a passenger train that is being pulled by what looks suspiciously like a USRA 0-8-0 dressed up in a fancy paint scheme (on a secondary, if not branch, line!).

    Honestly - these people:rolleyes:
  12. MilesWestern

    MilesWestern Active Member

    Heh, interesting thread here....and I must add, in "The Professionals" (1966) they managed to capture the era (1906) equipment quite nicely, if for a few errors... :rolleyes:
  13. TrainNut

    TrainNut Ditat Deus

    Sorry to be the "mythbuster" but I grew up driving on dirt roads many years ago and if the dirt is packed hard enough with nothing loose on top, the tires will indeed squeal quite nicely and leave big 'ol black skid/burnout marks!

    There are several sites out there that deal with movie goofs which it sounds like you guys would get a real kick out of. Do a search sometime! Here is one I was actually just looking at for Bourne Supremacy...
  14. Old 'n' Weary

    Old 'n' Weary New Member


    I live in the San Francisco Bay area, quite close to the Cal Train line (the former SP Mainline), and there is no scheduled passenger service here that uses an F7. Cal Train used F40PH and F59PH to haul its trains. Amtrak doesn't run up the peninsula - you have to go to the East Bay to catch the Coast Starlight - so I never see their engines here.
  15. Old 'n' Weary

    Old 'n' Weary New Member

    I live in the San Francisco Bay area, quite close to the Cal Train line (the former SP Mainline), and there is no scheduled passenger service here that uses an F7. Cal Train used F40PH and F59PH to haul its trains. Amtrak doesn't run up the peninsula - you have to go to the East Bay to catch the Coast Starlight - so I never see their engines here.
  16. MilesWestern

    MilesWestern Active Member

    Actually, the engine that looks like an F59PHI is actually an MP36PHI, but who really cares!? Does anyone know the numer on the F7's nose? If it's 918-D it's owned by the Pacific Locomotive Assoc. Which I'm a member of, they own an orange (WP zyphr) F7, and I'd make perfect sense in the Monk episode because I rmember that it was orange too...or am I wrong?
  17. Dick Elmore

    Dick Elmore Member

    Bill...The movie you're referring to with Kirk Douglas was "The Racers". 50's vintage
    formula one cars. Great shots of the cars but as you said, phoney closeups and soundmix.

    texas Chief
  18. Canopus

    Canopus Member

    I've only ever seen how a man wearing powered armor could carry a minigun. The ability to lift one and fire one at the same time would be limited to only those with amazing physical endurance, let alone strength, without such powered armor. Also, with power armor often being powered by microfusion power plants in this kind of fiction, no batteries are required, meaning the warrior only has to carry ammo, which is pretty easy when you're in a suit of armor that's 9 foot plus and able to lift a metric ton. When you get films with this kind of thing happening the inaccuracies are at least limited to trivial things like the feasability of microfusion powerplants, rather than in-your-face errors like ordinary people holding a weapon that is so large that it's normally mounted on aircraft. I don't see the point in getting too technical, but I also don't see the point in errors being so blatant that they ruin the film.
  19. 60103

    60103 Pooh Bah

    Can we turn this around a bit?
    Would you like to write a bit of a sports movie (The old college football, or baseball) with errors as bad as the train errors? "And now, he pitches the puck into the hoop..."
  20. Canopus

    Canopus Member

    Well the errors are of the same magnitude. It's just people don't consider trains to be important to anyone, and if any does find trains to be important, they're insignificant/sad/pathetic/whatever. The general attitude of non railfans toward railfans is quite disgusting I find. They laugh at our totally safe, harmless hobby, while they go off and do something that endangers their own lives as well as the lives of others, or harms the environment in some way. I guess it's slightly pointless to hope for more tolerance and consideration, because it's hoping to recieve it from the kind of people who can appreciate a love for cars with their engines and their wheels, but hit a brick wall when trying to understand a love for locomotives with their engines and their wheels. :rolleyes:

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