Trying to Identify.

Discussion in 'N / Z Scale Model Trains' started by crashmasterd, Apr 26, 2007.

  1. crashmasterd

    crashmasterd New Member

    Have been trying to get information on this train for someone. Any help will certainly be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,[​IMG]


  2. Cannonball

    Cannonball More Trains Than Brains

    What are you wanting to know about it?

    The prototype it was modeled after?
    The manufacturer?
    When it was made?
    Can you give any details about it other than the pics to help identify it?
  3. crashmasterd

    crashmasterd New Member

    uh...yes, yes,yes

    Pretty much yes, any thing you can tell me about it at all. I believe it is an older model and the owner thinks it's an american flyer but I don't know how to tell. The only markings I see on it at all are what look to be a series of model part numbers. They are as follows: PA 10109, PA 9466, and PA 946, all from the underside of the engine. And a piece of metal marked PATS. PENDING, also on the underside of the engine.

    Thanks again for your help.
  4. Torpedo

    Torpedo Member

    You posted in N/Z Trains. Perhaps this is the wrong forum, if it is or may be American Flyer equipment. To my knowledge, AF has never made anything that small.

    Can you measure the distance between the rails and post the dimension, please. That will help to identify the scale.
  5. crashmasterd

    crashmasterd New Member


    Thanks for the advice Torpedo. Which would be a more appropriate forum for me to post this in? I'm very new to all this. In any case, the track measures 1" from outside to outside. The engine is roughly 8" long by 3" tall. Hope this helps and thanks again. Steph
  6. Torpedo

    Torpedo Member

    Whoops. I should have mentioned, the measurement is taken inside to inside. Sorry about that. However, extrapolating from the one inch, it very much looks like that engine is S scale. It may very well may be American Flyer.

    Is that "brass" actually just paint, or are those separate detail items that someone has added?
  7. steamhead

    steamhead Active Member

    Funny I should pick this particular "identifying" thread to take a peek at, as I'm nearly engine illiterate. But this one, I KNOW...!! I know because I have one....!!!! That is definitely an American Flyer S-gauge, probably of late 40"s to early 50's, when AF was still using the hook-type couplers, and what seem to be stamped trucks. Mine has knuckle couplers and all-black cast trucks. The "brass" look is painted on. You can see some of the brush marks on the lines and it's bled on the air tank. It's also missing the pilot handrails. It seems to have been re-painted and lettered as AF, to my knowledge, did not do an A&S engine, and the engine would have its number on the cab sides, and not the line name. Well, that's all I can offer. It's a beauty, nonetheless...:)
  8. crashmasterd

    crashmasterd New Member

    WOW! That's wonderful. Thanks so much for the quick response and help. It is really appreciated.

    Stephan Lazare

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