Well I sent a SASE to Mr Orr who promptly sent me his product info. His prices are not that bad, I was expecting them to be much higher. My only problem is, his turn outs are set up for over head wire use, not 2 rail wiring. I’d like to stick with 2 rail for now because while I am saving money and spending time working on some Bowser trolleys, I can have a few cheapo Bachman trolleys running around. So basically can any one guide me to any web sights or books on the lost art of hand laying turn outs and cross overs? I’d like to be able to lay a #2 turnout in my streets, I can squeeze #4 turnouts in my inter-urban right of way, but I want to keep this mainly a street rail way, not an Inter-urban. Just as a side note I started a quasi internship at the Holyoke MA public library History Room, and my first task is to organize the Holyoke Street Ry. Collection. Mostly photos but it will give me a great idea of what the prototype was like. Dave M. PS I just found a copy of MRR's "Tracktion Guide Book" I feel like a luckey boy to have found one.