The Portuguese Railroads

Discussion in 'The Real Thing- International' started by Ricardo Correia, Dec 4, 2003.

  1. Our 1300 Whitcombe is another American Genuine we have in Portugal. I have some photos of them, unfortunately, these photos are all from their last period... so, locomotives were preparing to die...

    These locomotives, in their days, were the main locomotives for the most prestigious trains in Portugal, from the Sud-Express to the Lusitania Express (from France and Spain, respectively) and some of the fastest trains in Portuguese North and Eastern Lines. With the electrification of the North Line, they were sent to the Barreiro Station and were given the trains to the South. These were really fast locomotives, yet they had a serious traction problem, especially in the Algarve Hills... when they were pulling a "normal" train for Algarve with about 12 Budd Coaches, or something like that, they began failing and sometimes passengers were asked to leave the train and accompany it on foot... Great times...

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  2. Talking about old things...

    I want to share this picture with you since it comes more or less, following my topic about the Schindler Coaches...

    The Schindler's were used in Portugal, at first, for the commuter trains between Lisbon and Sintra. In the early 1950's with the coming of the diesel to Portugal, crossing the tunnel between Rossio and Campolide were forbidden to steam locomotives. Until the electrification were complete, in 1952 in this line, inside the tunnel, CP - Portuguese Railroads, used our 1200 switchers to bring trains from Rossio to Campolide, where a 2500 electric locomotive pulled then the train to Sintra.
    In this picture, you see a 1200 pulling Schindler coaches from the Rossio Tunnel in Campolide (to those who know Portugal, that landmark in the back is the Aqueduto das Águas Livres - the Aqueduct)... and the 2500 electric locomotive waiting in the siding to pick that train...

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  3. Gazilion

    Gazilion New Member

    Rossio / Santa Apolónia

    I need help on historical facts on the Portuguese Rail.
    An Argentinian writer is working on a novel about Portugal and he asked for my help. Can you help me on what concerns trains?
    He needs to known when did the Sud-Express started arriving at Rossio (instead of Santa Apolónia), and when did Santa Apolónia regained the status as terminal station for the Sud-Express.
    He would need the same information for trains going to Porto.
    If anyone could help me it would be great, as my friend is trying not to make many historical errors. (I think the period he is more interested in is the 1940s.)
    Thank you in advance for any possible help.
  4. Matthyro

    Matthyro Will always be re-membered

    Thanks for all the photos and information Ricardo. You put it all together very nicely

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