alright, the layout is coming down to start over and go with my original plan which was a dogbone style layout along the wall. I will finally take this time to paint the interior of the garage and then work will begin on the benchwork in a couple of weeks. frustration has set in with not really doing the current one the right way . plus a friend has told me he has a lot of old ho train stuff I can have which will make the need for the bigger layout even better. :thumb: one end of the layout will be the yard and industrial area, the other will be country like with the use of the current grain elevator. each end will be at least 4'x4' and then pushed as far apart as I can get them fitting in the area and then connected in the middle. wish me luck!