Star Trek Overhauls

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Paragon, Jan 25, 2010.

  1. sjsquirrel

    sjsquirrel Member

    Excellent work

    Absolutely gorgeous! Definitely one to be proud of Paragon. I love the detailing you've included, especially the way the shuttle fits so nicely in it's docking bay.

    So many models to build.....:cry:
  2. ekuth

    ekuth Active Member

    That's a hot ship... I love the aggressive look it has. Always thought Starfleet needed more dreadnaughts in the STNG era.
  3. vulcan8630

    vulcan8630 Member

    You, sir, have an ingenious mind!!! Incredible retraction and expansion system! (Also answers energy allocation problems for the "bean counting" gamers in us all!!!!!) Keep up the GREAT work !
  4. Paragon

    Paragon Active Member


    I wanted to see it in a scene.
  5. Paragon

    Paragon Active Member

    I took a little time off from designing to build the Centaur:


    Compared to the old version:


    The new, easier to build nacelles are better looking too:


    Compared to some ships that I estimate are of similar fucntion:


    Also compared to the Jem'Hadar attack ship. In the single appearance of the Centaur, it pursued a lone attack ship into Dominion space, before being chased off by two more attack ships, so at least her size does indicate a relative increase in power over them, even though she's obviously an older Starfleet design.

  6. radar*293

    radar*293 New Member

    are any of these over hauls available for down load?
  7. Paragon

    Paragon Active Member

    There's going to be a global release when I'm finished with the lot of them.
  8. radar*293

    radar*293 New Member

    thanks, can't wait....there looking good keep it up
  9. Paragon

    Paragon Active Member

    Get them while they're hot! All four new models are now available.
  10. Millenniumfalsehood

    Millenniumfalsehood Active Member


    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    Thank you, thank you, thank you, Paragon! :cool:

    Do you have any plans to continue the line of Trek '09 ships since there is another movie in the works?
  11. Paragon

    Paragon Active Member

    Once that new movie comes out, sure.
  12. DesignR

    DesignR New Member

    I'm still a bit hazy on the reason for the fold-away warp engines.

    You mention something about power transfers from the engines when folded in? Are your warp engines not powered from the central warp core/engine room?
  13. Millenniumfalsehood

    Millenniumfalsehood Active Member

    He may have been thinking about the old TOS-style warp engines, which were self-contained units IIRC with their own fusion reactors? :confused: Or maybe they act like the mirrors in a laser, with power being amplified by the close proximity to the core and the surplus power being drawn from the engines and transferred to the weapons, shields, and other systems.
  14. Paragon

    Paragon Active Member

    Well the primary reason for folding nacelles is to protect them during combat, making her excellent for blockade running, or hit-and-run missions where the ability to leave even after taking heavy fire is essential. The reduced profile of the ship with nacelles folded in means a smaller surface area for the shields to cover. Reduced shield power requirements means more available shield power.

    The ship is also supposed to have a new plasma exchange system that utilizes warp plasma in the nacelles as an auxiliary power source through a larger network of EPS conduits (which are already present in Federation ships, and already use small amounts of warp plasma to help power other systems). With the nacelles in, Durandal has nearly three times the available EPS exchange stations, instead of the few available through the warp pylons on most starships. The increased number of EPS exchanges between the warp nacelles and secondary hull allow both more warp plasma to be siphoned off for auxiliary power, as well as a much more expedient return of that plasma to the nacelles when preparing for warp. Starfleet protocol dictates at least 60% of warp plasma remain in the nacelles in standard conditions, allowing a maximum emergency warp speed of 4.5 in Durandal, increasing as warp plasma volume in the nacelles increases. Approximately 74% of the maximum amount of warp plasma siphoned off is returned to the nacelles via those EPS conduits in 3.4 seconds before the nacelles begin extending. The remaining 26% is returned to the nacelles via standard EPS conduits in the nacelle pylons, carefully timed to finish .14 seconds before the nacelles are fully extended. Nacelle extension takes 2.67 seconds.

    Durandal's warp nacelles are available for full operation when retracted into the hull, with the option to extend them while in warp. In the retracted position, engaged warp nacelles create a much less stable warp field, and have also been shown to cause interference with systems in the adjoining section of the secondary hull, as well as potentialy negative impacts on the health of crew members. For Durandal, maximum suggested warp operation with nacelles retracted is 5 minutes (after this point system difficulties and heath risks become an "unacceptable risk", as they increase with exposure), while the ships systems have a built in 7 minute automatic extension, which can only be overridden by the chief engineer, captain, or first officer of the vessel.

    I know, the numbers are pretty much made up on the spot, but EPS conduits are already well-established canon.

    If you don't feel like wading through technobabble, suffice it to say that the plasma can be used to help power the ship. They need the plasma for warp though, so they're not allowed to take it all out of the engines (usually). The ship is designed to return all the plasma to the engines before they are in position to go to warp. It takes about 6 seconds for Durandal to be able to go to full warp from impulse. They can also go to warp with the engines in if there's an emergency, though its dangerous.
  15. sjsquirrel

    sjsquirrel Member

    The master

    Paragon, you rock! Not only do you make great models, you have a wonderful imagination to bring them to life. I'd swear I was reading about a real ship.

    Thanks, and hats off to you,

  16. Paragon

    Paragon Active Member

    Well its not too hard, just a matter of researching a little info about previous starships. I have the Next Generation technical manual, and saw the EPS taps in the warp system, so I looked them up and realized the EPS conduits would be good.

    Though my explanation is actually a bit off. It turns out the EPS (Electro-plasma system) is actually the primary power distribution source on Federation starship, some important systems like life support and replicators run directly off electro-plasma. Other areas of the ship have converters that use the EPS to generate electricity to run different systems. It still works just fine for my sliding nacelles though, which is good.

    I've considered including more detailed background and technical info for my non-canon models before, but figured nobody would be too interested. Maybe I'll start doing it more if you like it that much.
  17. mchale

    mchale beach boy

    hey paragon hows your star trek pirate ship coming
  18. Paragon

    Paragon Active Member

    I'm currently out of ink and paper, plus I'm in the process of moving, so no progress on any projects at all. The computer I use for designing models is about to to out of service for a week and a half too, while I move it around with me, so don't expect any progress soon.
  19. Banto

    Banto New Member

    Wow, things are looking good in here!
    Love the designs...

    ..and you know what? A good model is worth waiting for, so I'll be patient~


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