Discussion in 'The Real Thing- North America' started by CN1, May 8, 2003.

  1. CN1

    CN1 Active Member

    Received an email from a company called Gilbert HO. Does anyone know about this company? I wonder how they got my email ?

  2. TomPM

    TomPM Another Fried Egg Fan

    Seems like a lot of folks got it and are also wondering about how they got their email addresses.

    The address that they used for me is one that I use only for railroad related things such as the forums and for a some manufacturers' newsletters and one or two hobby shops. I know the forums didn't give it out.
  3. Matthyro

    Matthyro Will always be re-membered

    Welcome to the Gauge CN1. I get lots of junk mail and wonder where they get hold of e-mail addresses. Who knows. Some ISPs may sell lists but I don't have proof of it. Some e-mail like hotmail, allows you to set up filters to control who you will get e-mail from.
    I keep my e-mail public here so those who wish, can contact me about joining NARA.
  4. Dave Hagan

    Dave Hagan Member

    I'd just like to confirm that the Gauge has not and will never give out members email addresses.

    Unfortunately there are software programs that "harvest" email addresses.

    Dave Hagan
  5. CN1

    CN1 Active Member

    I got ANOTHER SPAM e-mail from the annoying folks at GILBERT HO.


    Guess it does not work when you tell them to delet your e-mail adress from their garbage-spam-advertising.
  6. Ben H

    Ben H Member

    It seems strange that a company with this much of profile on the Internet would stoup to sending out spam that has been collected by some sleazy robot type operation.

    I would suggest that we all send a email to this firm suggestion that we don't appreciate this type of communications and would hope that some error has occurred that has seen so many people from this form getting unwanted emails.

    I had expected to find a email address for the company on their Web site. Usually a company that does online business will have a number of contact points for email, however this company doesn't have a email address -- something I peronallly find very strange.

    I for one will never buy one item from this company because I don't like their promotional practices and I'm really not convienced that I would be treated very well. How would I contact them if I placed a on line order - by regular mail after they have my credxit card - not likely.
  7. K.V.Div

    K.V.Div Member

    I made the mistake 3 years ago of responding to a spam-advertising email, requesting that they remove my email address from their list.
    During the next 5 days I received 358 spam messages from 17 different addresses which almost overloaded my server and tied up my emil completely untill I was forced to make a small change to my address.
    By responding to the spam, I informed all concerned that I was a live body at the end of my email address and, in effect, opened the floodgate to spam.
    I will never again respond to spam which manages to make it through my firewall and other systems in place, instead, resorting to my "Delete" button untill I can screen them out and I will never respond directly in any way that will let some spammer know what my email or address is.
    Be Carefull With These People!

  8. rockislandmike

    rockislandmike Active Member

    There is a rather large thread on the Atlas forum in regards to this. It's apparently the second spam they've sent.
  9. rockislandmike

    rockislandmike Active Member

    As per Terry's indication, you should *never* respond to a spammer. You already know they have suspicious business practices. In almost *every* case, they will let other spammers know that you have a valid email address and you will be flooded with more spam. You may or may not be removed from the original spammer's list as well.

    PS - there is a rather large thread on the Atlas forum vis-a-vis Gilbert HO. It seems as though they're pretty much convinced that's where they harvested the email addys from.
  10. CN1

    CN1 Active Member

    I just got another spam e-mail from THE MORONS AT GILBERT HO:

    Dear Fellow Gilbert HO Newsletter Subscriber,

    In an effort to keep our database current, We are asking that all subscribers
    who would like to continue receiving our weekly Newsletter to please respond to
    this e-mail with the word "continue" in the message subject line.
    For those subscribers who do not wish to receive our weekly Newsletter any
    longer, please do not respond to this e-mail at all.
    If within 48 hours we do not receive a confirmation from you, Gilbert HO will
    automatically remove your e-mail address from our database.

    We thank you in advance for your time.

    Thank you for choosing Gilbert HO !


    *This e-mail was sent to you by Gilbert HO, Inc.
    e-mail address:
  11. 60103

    60103 Pooh Bah

    Just want to say that I'm NOT getting any from them, so they haven't hacked into the Gauge's lists. ;)
    (I've had to install a commercial spam filter. Do you know how many ways there are to spell v!@gr@ ?)
  12. TR-Flyer

    TR-Flyer Member

    Hi all:
    The folks over on the Yahoo S-Trains forum went through this a couple weeks ago. Don't know how HO gets the lists but they do. Generally, it's a bad idea to respond to an unsolicited email, it just confirms that yours is a working address.

    We are trying out a program called mailwasher,, to see if it will help a couple folks here at work that are getting, ahem, "risque" email solicitations. Another useful "freebie" is a program called "Spybot". I use it to clean my systems of spyware and other such junk.

  13. rfgiardina

    rfgiardina New Member

    The R.F. Giardina, Co., Inc. is not GilbertHO

    Contrary to a previous post, The R.F. Giardina, Co., Inc., is not GilbertHO.

    We have a link on their site, as is required by our Dealer Sales Program.

    Any complaints or letters to The R.F. Giardina, Co., Inc., about this matter will be fowarded to our Legal Dept.

    Robert F. Giardina, CEO
    The R.F. Giardina, Co., Inc.
  14. Strthoky

    Strthoky Member

    Re: The R.F. Giardina, Co., Inc. is not GilbertHO

    chalk that up to another rude company I will never do buisness with... a simple hey its not us would be suffice.
  15. rfgiardina

    rfgiardina New Member

    Re: Re: The R.F. Giardina, Co., Inc. is not GilbertHO

    I was not trying to be rude. If you were in business, who would know that certain things need to be said, to preserve ones rights.
    Under Federal Law, it is a crime to spread false or malicious information about a business, that might injure that business.

    Since there are people who don't know that, or care, it's sometimes necessary to interject a phase that might catch their attention.

    I find it more rude, that someone would carelessly post information prior to confirming its accuracy.

    If you choose not to do business with a company that attempts to protect its' reputation and protect the information it has on its customers, that is up to you.
  16. CN1

    CN1 Active Member

    I don't want to add fuel to the fire here ,BUT:

    I will never do business with any company whatsoever who deliberately sends me SPAM e-mails. I did not ask them for info, I don't care about them and I'm angry that they got my e-mail adress (somehow) and bombarded me, without my consent, with useless advertising.

    Because of that I will always boycot and expose company who do business that way.

    enough said.
  17. rfgiardina

    rfgiardina New Member

    I was referring to my company.
    We did not send you any emails. However, it seemed you were including us in your post.

  18. Mike R

    Mike R Member

    Most people don't care who intends to "boycott" companies or individuals who send spam emails.
    Just delete what you don't like.

    Spam emails trying to sell product are no more annoying to me than paper spam [ flyers] in the snail mail, most of which go in the recycle box....but I can't necessarily boycott ALL of the grocery & hardware stores that send it.

    What else is annoying ? Telemarketer phone calls...Readers Digest ''you-may-be-a-winner'' mail...flyers stuck under the winshield...all forms of spam in their own way. Just climb down off the soapboxes, try to contain your looks of righteous indignation, and delete want you don't like.
    At least the stuff being complained about here isn't that disgusting porn that seems to be more and more prevalent in the unwanted inbox my case it never started showing up until I joined a Yahoo group.
    regards / Mike:(
  19. Greg Elems

    Greg Elems Member

    E mail address can be any combination of letters and numbers. You would be surprised at the e mail I get with hundreds of similar spellings of our e mail address. It just takes a computer program to run off combinations of letters added to or .com. If you use a search engine, you probably open yourself up to spam. Once you find what you are looking for, your e mail is in the system. Anybody on their second delete key yet? I use mine all the time and it hasn’t worn out yet.

    Greg Elems
  20. rockislandmike

    rockislandmike Active Member

    Two posts, and then really we should get someone to lock this thread, it's getting out of hand:

    (1) I did not see CN1 mention *anywhere* in his posts about Giardini. I even did a search to see if I was missing anything, and nope. So I'm not really clear what your point was, Giardini. Except to get yourself (and hence your company) embroiled into a flamewar.

    (2) Mike, the problem is that companies *PAY* to have junkmail delivered to your door. In terms of email, it's the ISP and yours truly who ends up footing the bill for the incredible amount of bandwidth that's being wasted on spam. If they insist on perpetuating their spam, they should be FORCED to pay a fee into a national pool that is then split amongst all ISP's at the end of the year. Now *THAT* would be a fair solution to the problem.

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