I am leaning more and more towards the Scenic Ridge layout. Mostly because my own trackplans look like poo. Also, the cost of building the Scenic Ridge would be considerably less than doing one of my own layouts. There is almost $100 difference in the cost of the track alone. We can also add the fact that I know nothing about building an actual scenic'd layout with tunnels, bridges and stuff. The WS kit seems pretty well step by step. (Don't forget, I'm a converted O gauger. My previous motto was, "throw down some track and drive those trains!" ) There are two things holding me back from making a definate call on this. 1) 9-3/4 curves. How limited will this really make my layout? I have long passenger car set and they make it around 9-3/4 turns just fine. It might not look pretty but they have no trouble with it. Is 9-3/4" really as much of a hazzard as everyone says? 2) Woodland Scenics uses a 4% grade on this layout. That's going to seriously limit the number of cars I can pull at one time. From what I've read across the internet, people who have built them seem fairly satisfied with them. However, I just can't seem to get past a definate "maybe."