S.M.S. Schleswig Holstein, GPM, 1:200, Full hull

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  1. fluthecrank

    fluthecrank Member

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    Hi friends,

    my next project is under the motto "back to the roots".

    I began cardmodeling with ship models. After incredible experiences with steam engines and planes now I stated with a ship model.
    It´s the german Liner "Schleswig Holstein" by GPM in the scale 1:200.

    As usual there were a lot of formers to glue on cardboard and cut out. It was not so bad as expected.

    At first a look at the kit
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    it´s a very proper print and everything fits well so far

    Just hae a first look to the below waterline hull ( it will be my first full hull model)

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    the full hull not glued

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    and the marriage

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    For details I use the etched parts from the publisher......

    best regards FLU
  2. Amazyah

    Amazyah Senior Member

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    This will be a nice one to follow FLU!
    Thanks for sharing this with us!
    As always, I enjoy following along with all of your builds, no matter what the subject!

    Russell
  3. beejay

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    Hello Flue,
    Very nice build so far, but please, S.M.S. Schleswig-Holstein was not a liner. She was a pre-dreadnought Battleship of the 'Deutschland' Class, launched in Dec 7th 1906 and her main claim to fame was that she fired the opening shots of WW2 on Sept 1st 1939, when she bombarded Polish fortifications at point-blank range at Westerplatte. She also ended her days in Poland as she was scuttled at Gydnia 21st March 1945.
    Looking forward to seeing her finished
    VBR
    beejay
  4. cmdrted

    cmdrted Active Member

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    Great looking so far Flu! I started in ships also, now you and Ski are starting to "wet my appetite" for something to build nautical. Beejay, maybe when he said liner, he meant a Ship of the Line in very old Nautical terms.
  5. fluthecrank

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    Liner -> Linienschiff.......

    Hi beejay,

    that´s the problem with non native speakers and leo.org :-D

    I gave it the word Linienschiff and it gave me "Liner", "warship" and "ship of the line".

    O.K. after your comment it is apparent for me that the Schleswig Holstein is not a liner like the Queen Mary :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: what a mistake.
    But, "ship of the line" sounds so bumpy for me, that I never thought that it could be the right term...............anyway, I will correct my mistake.......

    best FLU and thank´s for the hint !!
  6. Amazyah

    Amazyah Senior Member

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    Dang, I was wondering where the big pool was!:roll:
    And I thought this was another Titanic build!....Not!

    With your building skills FLU, I know this is going to be a very nice looking ship!
    Pool or not!:twisted:

    Russell
  7. fluthecrank

    fluthecrank Member

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    the hull below the waterline.......

    Hi friends,

    that´s the status of this afternoon, not bad , it´s my first full hull model.
    All gaps depend on me..........next step is grinding and coating with white glue....

    best regards FLU

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  8. Beachead

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    Novice question

    What caught my attention was the statement "next step is grinding and coating with white glue...." I can guess but would like to know what it intails, what does it mean? Thanks,
  9. Teamski

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    Looking good! :)

    -Ski
  10. kooklik

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    Very nice hull plates assembly. Waiting for next steps.
  11. fluthecrank

    fluthecrank Member

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    underwater hull......

    Hi folks,

    because of the good fit of the parts I decided not to grind. O.K. the bulkheads are visible but in reality the vessels look a bit dented too !

    I made a weathering by using watercolors, what do you mean about the build so far ?

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    best regards FLU
  12. Lex

    Lex Dollmaker

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    The weathering looks excellent!! Watercolours? Wow!!
  13. Clashster

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    Beautiful! The hull looks great... Awesome job with the weathering! Great start to this build!

    Chris
  14. beejay

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    Hello Flu and Cmrdted
    Re S.M.S. Schleswig-Holstein
    I did not mean to be pedantic, but as Golden Bear correctly said, she was simply called a Battleship at the time. The expression, ship of the line, had passed into history a long time before she was launched. After the commissioning of H.M.S. Dreadnought, the earlier types of Battleships were called Pre-dreadnought Battleships. I think that the German nomenclature was very apt for her, a Schlagtshiff, if my memory of German serves me well. The main point is that your build is progressing very well.
    Very best regards
    beejay
  15. cdcoyle

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    With respect, everyone, flu was correct. Up until the 1920's or so, what we would call a battleship in German was called a Linienschiff, literally a "line ship" or "ship of the line". Although the fighting sail doctrine known as a line of battle was long-gone, battleship squadrons did still sail in line formations, hence the name. The term Panzerlinienschiff (armored ship of the line) was also used. Dreadnoughts in German were called Grosslinienschiffe, or "big ships of the line".

    Best regards,
  16. barry

    barry Active Member

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    battleships

    Just take a look at photographs of Jutland and you will see where Ship of the Line came from. Luckily my old Dad was on a cruiser instead of a battleship which wasn't such a sitting duck I think he was 17 . He was an old salt by then he lied about his age (13) at Devonport, (ran away from a Church of England home) the recruiting PO looked up with words No mother, no father then the Navy's your mother now lad however old you are. Todays politicians would have a fit.
  17. fluthecrank

    fluthecrank Member

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    what was the meaning of the term "ship of the line"...

    Hi friends to give you an idea what the meaning of the term "ship of the line" is, I found a drawing with some hints to the strategy of the line of ships.

    It is out of a monography about the Schleswig Holstein.

    Just have a look


    best regards FLU (I`ll be off until weekend because of a business trip)
  18. DrBill

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    Interesting descrtiption from Wikipedia, which gives the origin of both "ship of the line" and "battle ship:"

    "A ship-of-the-line was a type of naval warship constructed from the 17th century through the mid-19th century, the culmination of a naval tactic known as the line-of-battle, in which two columns of opposing warships would manoeuvre to bring the greatest weight of broadside guns to bear. Since these engagements were almost invariably won by the heaviest ships carrying the most powerful guns, the natural state of progression was to build the largest, most powerful sailing vessels at the time, which in turn would lead to the title line-of-battle-ship being bestowed upon them, in effect making these vessels the ancestors of the battleship."

    Wikipedia article on "Ship of the Line"
  19. fluthecrank

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    the shell plates

    Hi friends,

    today I started with the vessels skin, everything fits well, it´s a fun to build this model (so far).........

    just look for yourself:

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    best FLU
  20. Clashster

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    Wonderfully smooth lines! Looks like it will be another impressive build, Flu! Thanks for the update!

    Chris