Russian Mary Rose

Discussion in 'Ship & Watercraft Models' started by copitz, May 19, 2007.

  1. copitz

    copitz New Member

    Has anyone experience building this model? I am plugging along, using the instruction translations I have found, which include such lines as:

    "On носовую a superstructure paste a detail 45 (носовая a wall) and a detail 46 (a fodder wall)."

    Charming, but a bit cryptic.

    The model is going together, but I can't help wondering if it looks like what was intended! This model certainly has a sturdy hull.
  2. David H

    David H Member

    Surely you mean Charming but Cyrillic? ;P

    Looks like an interesting model and going together well.

    Who is the manufacturer, what's the scale and how much detail?

    I have a very good friend who worked on raising the ship in the 1980s and would consider making him a copy for his desk. Where did you find her?

  3. Tirta

    Tirta Member

    Hi copitz,

    It looks good. :D
    How long do you need to finish it as it is?
    How thick is the cardboard you use for laminating the frame?

    Hi David,

    This is a free model on this site:
  4. SteveM

    SteveM Member
  5. David H

    David H Member

    Thanks Tirta and Steve,

    I will watch Copitz's build thread with interest. Looks fun but quite dificult to build?

    I am off to look at some books about the Mary Rose to see if I can undestand the rigging!

    Now I can build the Mary Rose, HMS Victory (any time i have a year or so spare!) I just need Warrior 1860 to make the Portsmouth set.

  6. mmshotin

    mmshotin Member

    "носовая" means "nose"
  7. copitz

    copitz New Member


    Hello all,

    Yes, David, I should of said Cyrillic!! Marvelous that you know someone with experience with the real ship. The only recovered sailing ship I have seen is the Vasa, and that was probably 20 yrs ago.

    There are lots of pieces, and they are not always so clearly identified. Sometimes the sequence of assembly seems a little odd. In addition, it is sometimes not quite clear how the pieces are to be aligned vertically, although mast holes help a lot.

    Sheathing the hull proved tricky. The pieces overlap a lot, and have many marks printed on them. In the end I sanded and painted the lower hull. It is still far from smooth, but it is tough. So far I am pretty challenged by full hulls; unfortunately I am also attracted to them.

    Other than those "complaints", it's not too difficult.

    Tirta, I think the hull should be finished in a week or so; my work schedule is very erratic. Masts and rigging -- I don't have a clue on how long that part of process will take. In many places the model and instructions are pretty "light".

    I used standard mat board for the frame, which is about 1/16 inch (1 - 2 mm) thick. The basic hull structure is very rugged.

    Oh, I could have used your input many times in this process!!

    Thanks for your replies,

    copitz a/k/a Calvin
  8. mmshotin

    mmshotin Member

  9. David H

    David H Member

    Thanks mm for the links...

    Copitz I would love to see the Vasa it has been on my list of things to do for a long, long time...

  10. copitz

    copitz New Member

    thanks to mmshotin

    Thanks for the great resources. I wish I had seen them before I started!

  11. gippolot

    gippolot Member

    Thanks for the links

    Thanks for the links mmshotin. They are very helpful.

  12. copitz

    copitz New Member


    I believe the hull is about ready to receive masts. Pictures follow.

    Also, for those interested, I've added a picture of the initial framwork.
  13. David H

    David H Member

    Wow Copitz!

    That gun deck is so cool!

    Mind made up. Big old office ink jet tomorrow AM, all the sliders to 100% or more.

    Perhaps you could publish some instructions or guidlines in English!

  14. thewoodengraver

    thewoodengraver Active Member

    Very nice!!! I cannot wait to see her finished. Great job!
  15. Clashster

    Clashster Member

    Very cool! I think I may take a stab at this one someday, so I am eagerly watching your thread! Thanks! BTW - looks great!

  16. nibel

    nibel Member

    Arg anythign I buld will look like a toys compare to yours.... Good job and will wait to see how she looks when finish..
  17. copitz

    copitz New Member


    I may take a shot at "translating" a few of the instructions I have managed to figure out. There still are some mysterious pieces of the puzzle!

    But, I'm working on the masts first.

  18. copitz

    copitz New Member


    Thanks for all your support!

    Attached is my first cut at annotated instructions.

  19. David H

    David H Member


    You are a braver man than I!

    That's great and your commentary based on experience will be really helpful.

    We were just too busy at work yesterday to fathom out printing the jpegs(fit to page, fit to margins print actual!. The note on printing out two sets of hull formers is v. welcome.

    Much appreciated.

  20. mmshotin

    mmshotin Member

    Some translation notes to your great job:
    nakleyte - glue on
    vkleyte - glue in
    prover'te - check out
    instruments - cannons
    with size of yashchkhyshch mm - 45x15 mm size
    Soobrazuyas' - accordingly
    proden'te - insert thru
    wants, guys - shrouds
    shtug, shtagov - forestay
    ruslen - shrouds pod on boards
    stenga - topmast
    reya - yard

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