progress on my layout

Discussion in 'HO Scale Model Trains' started by viperman, Aug 27, 2006.

  1. green_elite_cab

    green_elite_cab Keep It Moving!

    the harry potter set is the Bachman EZ track, and that is a hundred times better vareity wise then the life-like style track of the disney world train set ( i think its snap-loc or something along those lines).

    the problem with the ez-track and others is that the railed don't smoothly but up with one another where they connect, among other weird issues. Maybe you haven't had problems yet, but its certainly a problem for alot of people i've talked to.

    additionally, their switches and things cause a billion and one different derailements. I'm not sure where the problem is to fix this, but every once in the while, (usually the second or third car in my passenger consists) will diverge onto one of my #6 crossovers when going through it, even though i repeatedly check to make sure the points are lined up and all of that. its very frustrating.

    as for steel rail... i have it on my layout, and its usually not a problem. I do notice my steal EZ track gets dirtier faster with black grime and grease stuffs, but as far as corrosion goes, there is very little corrosion on my steal tracks. Brass track is the only track that seems to get dull and corroded any more than any other section of track i have, and even then brass track doesn't give me any problems. I always wonder why people freak out about brass track so much.
  2. viperman

    viperman Active Member

    A good majority of my track is brass
  3. YmeBP

    YmeBP Member

    I have a mixed collection i've been building from ebay. At this point i think i'm at 50% NS, 30%steel and 20%brass on the regular track. And i have 50-50 split NS/Steel on the power loc.

    I found track cleaning cars on the forum from aztek, there is even a thread w/ a link to a movie showing the car. I think i'm either going to design my own or buy one before i use my brass and steel track becuase i'm lazy and i hate cleaning tracks already!
  4. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    Steven, PLEASE, do yourself a HUGE favor and 86 the brass track!!!:eek: i know money might be tight:(, but BELIEVE ME, you will be saving yourself from a BUNCH of hassles down the road;). brass track gets dirtier a 100x faster then nickle silver, you'll have more electrical shorts in time too. i still have flashbacks of dad spending HOURS cleaning the crud off the wheels of not only the engines, but cars too:eek:, because brass track corrodes so fast. the time spent on doing that stuff could be spent on running trains or modeling:thumb:.
    MY ADVICE, and this IS JUST MY ADVICE, i would rather see you take a little longer and get good track, then rush it and have needless problems down the road, you'll thank yourself later:thumb:.

    :D -Deano
  5. ocalicreek

    ocalicreek Member

    'course, cleaning crud off the wheels may have more to do with the environment, the frequency of trains run, the type of wheels, etc. than just brass rail alone. Metal wheels in a closed environment (inner spare room, e.g.) run frequently in the absence of any rail cleaners like goo gone that leave residue, no animal dander, no smoking in the rail room, and even low humidity can make for a very clean experience. But those of us stuck in a drafty garage in the pacific northwest have other factors to contend with....

    Still, I second Deano's advice here. If it's at all possible go with nickel silver. A few more pennies per foot is a small price to pay for cleaner track and happier model railroading.

  6. viperman

    viperman Active Member

    setup is in my basement, right next to a dehumidifier, in a non smoking house We do have cats that like the table, but I plan on getting a tarp. I've run the brass track a bit with no problems, just that they get dirtier. I do plan to move forward, and replace track as the budget allows. Not ignoring anyone's tips here, I just simply need the money elsewhere
  7. ocalicreek

    ocalicreek Member

    I've heard double sided tape keeps cats from clawing furnature, also from climbing around places you don't want them to be if you can put it in their path. Something about the stickyness they don't like on their paws.

  8. Hi Viperman, interesting! I am new to RR modeling and The Guage. It appears you are using strofoam for the hills and forming the lake?

    Notice your mention DC but would like to functionality of DCC. I found a company that makes electronic boards so you can do a lot of what DCC does but apparent not at the high price and without compatibility issues. The company is Dallas Electronics, I can assume there are others with similar capability.

    Enjoyed the pictures of the layout development gave me some ideas.

  9. YmeBP

    YmeBP Member

    I was thinking that if i had the specs could i make my own dcc decoder equipment? I just looked up the dallas electronics do they have ready made kits or do you contract them to make your stuff for you?
  10. viperman

    viperman Active Member

    Jeff, thank you for the compliments.

    Yes, I have been using styrofoam to build up the ground, and carve down into. It will be much easier now with the pink base I have, rather than just mounted directly to the plywood like before.
    It is nice to know I have given someone ideas, when I keep looking elsewhere for ideas. I have a vision, but need to look to other people for ideas on how to create that vision, or just whatever else I think I may like.

    I will have to look into that company you mention, as running DCC would be nice to have, but it really isn't something I'm worried about
  11. YmeBP - Not sure if they will make to your spec, but they do have stuff made up. I am not knowledgable regarding DCC. I use DC and with the electronics that Dallas makes I pretty much do a lot of the things DCC offers. For example, I have their sound system, granted I had to wire but I had the option of placing in one of my engines or use it as an external sound system with an amplifier and speaker (I did the external). They also have electronics that you can stop or delay your locomotive at any defined location on your layout. I use a signal that when the first train passes the signal it automatically turns red, stopping any following trains for a given delay period. Then the signal turns green and the following train resumes.
  12. Hey Steven,
    Apologize if you thought I was recommending you go DCC. I do not use DCC found compatibility issues between manufactures (i.e., Atlas and Bachman). Personally, I'm old fashioned DC for me sign1 . What I was trying to say, was that Dallas Electronics makes stuff that to me makes my DC layout appear to run like a DCC layout. But then again I am new and just getting started, may eat those words in 6 months.
  13. YmeBP

    YmeBP Member

    I think that is why i'm so drawn into this hobby becuase of the potential to fiddle ;). I am no electronics expert but i bet w/ a couple resistors a switch some duct tape and an acorn i could make a small nuclear reactor on my layout :).

    I'm interested to see how you designed your delay circuit. I was thinking about doing something like that for one of my tee crossings, where if there is a train w/in a certain proximity it kills the power to the crossing track section.

  14. YmeBP, I do told the Dallas Company what I needed and they supplied it. Wish I had your talent.
  15. viperman

    viperman Active Member

    Jeff, that makes it all the much better when you say you have those abilities (?) with DC. Now I think I will look at it, though I'll probably end up wanting something I can't afford
  16. Steven, been there done that. Its times like that I feel I should be a kid, "I want this!, I want that! I want, I want, I want. but the paycheck says you can want in one hand and sheet in the other and see which you have more when your done. Guess that is what makes me a grumpy old man.
  17. Pitchwife

    Pitchwife Dreamer

    Hi YmeBP :wave:

    Here is a simple delay circuit that will reduce rear end collisions. You'll need to decide what kind of trigger mechanism that would work best for you, IR, magnetic, mechanical etc. The sensor would be mounted at the beginning of a wiring block and the cutoff would apply to the block that it had just left. Any train entering that block from behind would be stopped while the first train kept on going. It would be a little trickier for tracks that handle traffic in two directions, but not too much so.

    Attached Files:

  18. YmeBP

    YmeBP Member

    That is a thing of beauty! I wonder how big are your power blocks?
  19. Pitchwife

    Pitchwife Dreamer

    You can make them as long or as short as necessary. They should be able to hold the longest train that you run thru them. That way even if the caboose is about to get clobbered, the engine of the front train will trigger the circuit and stop the following train in time. The delay should be set for a long enough period for the first train to get some distance or else be switched onto a siding.

    You don't even need them on all wiring blocks, just the ones that get congested with a lot of traffic. It's a versatile little circuit. It can also be used to trigger crossing bells and/or gates, track signals and traffic control, other animation. Have someone come out of a house to wave at the train. A lot of different applications.
  20. viperman

    viperman Active Member

    Ok, went to a hobby shop today. I picked up a pack of 18"r and 9" Atlas code 100 (to match what I have) NS track! Was fooling around with my iclines and risers, and I will be able to use ALL my incline pieces (on only 2 inclines) and at least one of my 1" risers on the far left track.
    Also picked up an EJ&E 40' box, and a truss bridge (which I'll be taking back tomorrow since I don't need it, forgot I already have one)

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