Yeah I know but unlike Ebay. Paypal deals with laws and regulation tied down to international law. If your filtering funds from illegal activities through credit cards your violating laws beyond moral means. I have attempted to fire up a discussion about pirate sales on the ebay forum and I cannot believe the complacency that is rampant in that community. From what I gather it's ok to sell pirate material as long as you are not caught. That ebay has enough interference with sellers, that no more is needed. That members should not be reporting pirated or copyright infringing materials if they are not the IP owners. That it is irrelevant that a an item which is naturally sold only as a printed book being sold on cd as a pirated item. Halinski, GPM and others really need to get Vero membership. There was a member selling scanned models complete with a copy of Autocad lite burned to cd is still selling there. I would think that person would be doing jail time when you see the list of sales and yet if you search you will find him still selling models on disc he downloaded for free or got pirated. Just not as descriptive as to what exactly on disc anymore.