Philippine Railways (PNR) Derailment :(

Discussion in 'The Real Thing- International' started by jon-monon, Nov 12, 2004.

  1. jon-monon

    jon-monon Active Member

    I missed the PI news last night so I jsut found out :(

    Most of this from :

    Sad news guys, this just came in from abs-cbn news service. Happened
    early this morning. News said 2 dead but live update from tv says
    there are 3 casualties already and more than a hundred were airlifted
    to various hospitals. The ravine was about 40 feet deep. PNR general
    manager says its apparently caused by over-speeding...

    Train falls off ravine in Quezon, 2 dead

    A passenger train bound for Manila was derailed and fell into a ravine
    at Barangay Duhat, Padre Burgos town, Quezon province, early Friday.
    Two passengers were killed in the incident.

    Initial reports said three coaches fell into the ravine while the other
    four toppled over.

    Police said approximately 320 passengers were onboard the affected
    coaches when the incident happened at 2:30 am.

    The injured passengers were quickly brought to nearby hospitals.


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    MANILA, Nov 12 (Reuters) - At least two people were killed and 50 injured
    when the last four cars of a train plunged into a ravine in the central
    Philippines early on Friday, disaster officials and radio stations said.

    Some of the 300 passengers were pulled from the wreckage but rescuers were
    concentrating on one car, smashing windows to get at people trapped inside,
    police and a passenger said.

    The four derailed cars were in a ravine that could be 100 feet (30 metres)
    deep, one national disaster official told a radio station.

    The eight-coach Philippine National Railways train was travelling overnight
    from Naga City in the Bicol region to Manila. There were no immediate
    reports of what caused it to come off the tracks.


    Friday, November 12, 2004 10:57 PM

    Rain hampers retrieval operations in PNR crash

    Intermittent rains hampered the recovery operations of the Philippine Air Force (PAF) of missing individuals that may be trapped inside the train that derailed and crashed into a ravine in Padre Burgos town, Quezon province, early Friday.

    Seven people were reportedly killed while three others were still missing.

    Because of the bad weather, members of the PAF team assisting in the retrieval of the bodies are having a difficult time recovering the body of a woman pinned inside Coach Number 3 of PNR Train No. 580, DZMM reported.

    Authorities fear that the three missing persons may be inside the coach that fell into the ravine.

    The eight-coach train was traveling overnight from Naga City in the Bicol region to Manila when five coaches derailed and tumbled into the 40-foot ravine.

    The PNR is studying whether damages on the tracks or the train itself might have caused the accident. He also did not rule out human error as a cause for the crash.
  2. jon-monon

    jon-monon Active Member

    The count goes up to 10


    Manila Times is reporting:

    10 die as train derails

    160 others hurt in Quezon rail accident

    At least 10 people were killed and about 160 injured when a train derailed in the dark and plunged down a slope in Quezon early Friday, officials said.

    The Manila-bound Philippine National Railways train, with about 400 passengers, went off the rails at speed near Barangay Duhat, Padre Burgos.

    Four of the six passenger coaches plunged down a 40-foot slope, eyewitnesses said. Some of the wheelbases remained on the track.

    The PNR suspects that the tracks were damaged by thieves who remove tracks, rail spikes and other equipment to sell for scrap. Mayor Dominador Villena of Padres Burgos said the train may also have been going too fast.

    Full story:

    Another article indicates poor track condition may be to blame, and much of the track problems are blamed on looters. Yet the track was last repaired in 1992, and sources tell me that area is known for it bad track.

    Also from Manila times:

    Passenger contacts rescue with cell phone

    By Anthony Vargas , Reporter

    A phone call from a train passenger to Patrol 117 made rescuers respond quickly to Friday morning’s railroad accident in Quezon.

    The train, bound for Manila, jumped the track and fell into a 12-meter-deep gully in Padre Burgos town.

    At around 2: 26 a.m., just minutes after the accident, Edwin Carillo, who was among the 312 passengers in the train, called up Patrol 117, the Philippine National Police’s emergency hot line, on his mobile phone. The dispatcher, with code No. 2017, took the call.

    Carillo told the dispatcher the train had derailed and four of its six coaches had tumbled into the gully.

    The dispatcher alerted the Padre Burgos police station, the police unit nearest the accident scene. Within 34 minutes after Patrol 117 called, a team from the Padre Burgos Police, led by its chief, Supt. Ireneo Inal, was at the site.
  3. Chessie6459

    Chessie6459 Gauge Oldtimer

    WOW :eek: That is sad to hear about that. :(
  4. faroukstan

    faroukstan Member

    To Jon-Monon :

    Just opened the forum. I lament this event happening. To all Filipino train commuters and railfans the condition of the Philippine National Railways is in now (compared to the 60's) is VERY MUCH DEPLORABLE! Suspending operation of one line due to an accident (as ordered by Ate Glo - the President) instead of doing something to improve the track conditions, as well as the RIGHT OF WAY, is defeating the existence of the PNR. And, it's very sad that the government seemed to be only in earnest in talking about measures whenever an accident (though not frequent despite the PNR's track condition) but not before any occurence of accidents. At the Bicutan Junction part of the track is used by the Bicutan Public Market for fish vendors to set up their tables/stalls. On top muck and debris cover most of the track except the railheads!
    Rail transport is the most economical means of getting in and to southern Luzon from Manila and therefore is popular for common, ordinary Filipinos. The government had recognized this for many, many years but are short of tangible effort to the effect. It's still letting a "old, sick horse pulls a cart"!!
    Though relatively UNSASFE common 'TAO' (Filipinos) still takes to riding because it's the cheapest!
    I don't know why I'm saying it here. Maybe, its my disappointment and frustration on the PNR/MRR I knew as a child.......My heart goes to my KABAYAN (country-men) who must bear the consequence of this gross neglect and complacency.....

  5. jon-monon

    jon-monon Active Member


    Yes sir it is indeed sad that many in the government do not realize the importance of a healthy railway for a thriving economy. What sucessful modern economy does not have a decent railway? I believe it's hte most effeciant form of land transportation, and it certainly beats buses from a pollution standpoint.

    I wonder what effect this will have on those who steal rail spikes? Economically, psycologically, etc.

    Track conditions in San Pablo, Laguna, very near the San Pablo station.

    Attached Files:

  6. jon-monon

    jon-monon Active Member

    Manila Bulletin reporting 13 dead

    Train derailed in Quezon; 13 dead
    GMA orders suspension of PNP operations


    PAF team leads rescue work; 142 hurt

    At least 13 passengers died while 142 others were seriously injured when a train of the Philippine National Railways (PNR) with about 350 passengers on board fell into a ravine in barangay Duhat, Padre Burgos town, Quezon province, early yesterday morning, the National Disaster Coordinating Council (NDCC) at Camp Aguinaldo, Quezon City, reported yesterday.

    The train came from Legaspi City in Albay and was bound for Manila when the accident occurred.

    In his report to President Arroyo, Defense Secretary and NDCC Chairman Avelino Cruz Jr. said elements of the 505th Rescue Group of the Philippine Air Force from Villamor Air Base in Pasay City and Fernando Air Base in Lipa City, Batangas, immediately went to the area to conduct rescue operations for train survivors.

    Reports relayed by the Quezon Provincial Disaster Coordinating Council to the Office of Civil Defense (OCD) identified 11 of the fatalities as Rosemarie Remo, 24; Arnold Jester, 3; Rudy Bolanos, 64; Irene Cardenas, 28; MJ Cardenas, 1; Aida Alconar, 53; Delima Lauta of Sipocot, Camarines Sur; Miguela Elec of Los Baños, Laguna; Merrieta Martinez Relos, 28; Narcisa Lambingan of Lucena City; and Rowena Miralle, 28 of GMA, Cavite.

    The OCD said 147 other passengers were rushed to four hospitals — Quezon Memorial Hospital, with 70 patients; Jane County Hospital, 50; Lucena Medical Mission Group, 18; and St. Anne Hospital in Lucena City, nine persons. Nine others were treated for minor injuries, it was reported.

    Reports said the victims were on board a PNR train with four coaches when the train fell off track while running at high speed in barangay Duhat at past 2 a.m. yesterday.

    Police authorities who rushed to the area said several passengers were trapped inside the coaches after it turned upside down and fell into a 40-foot ravine.

    Residents from the surrounding areas also helped authorities in retrieving survivors from the coaches, reports added.

    Troopers of the Southern Luzon Command in Lucena City immediately responded to the accident area to assist local executives led by Padre Burgos Mayor Ding Villena in undertaking rescue operations for the victims.

    The NDCC said that the ill-fated trains had 350 passengers on board.

    "All responding units in the disaster scene continuously undertake search, rescue and retrieval operations as there are still missing passengers," the NDCC reports said.

    Members of the Makati Rescue Team also volunteered to help government authorities in assisting survivors from the accident, it was learned.

    Two helicopters from the Philippine Air Force also went to the area to airlift injured victims to nearby hospitals.

    Train tragedy

    PADRE BURGOS, Quezon – A Philippine National Railway (PNR) passenger train fell off a ravine in Barangay Duhat here killing at least 13 persons, with three others missing, and many injured at around 2:45 a.m. yesterday.

    Police and rescue teams identified six of the victims as Janet Bauio, Miguela de Elic, Marietta Rellos, Fe Aspe, Celina Laota and a certain woman identified only as Margarita. Their addresses and ages were not immediately available.

    The injured were rushed by responding policemen, military personnel under by Southern Luzon Commander Major General Pedro Cabuay Jr. and Civilian rescuers to Jane County Hospital in Pagbilao and in Quezon Medical Center and MMG Clinic in Lucena City. Three others were listed as missing.

    The train, bearing No. 580 marking, came from Albay and was headed to Tayuman Station in Manila. It fell into a ravine 100 meters deep with 312 passengers in its manifest list.

    Engr. Noli Tolentino, PNR chief engineer at the Lucena station said the train was overspeeding as it was running at 70 kms. per hour when the speed limit in the area is only 20 kms. per hour.

    He said that the PNR railway section from Lucena to Agdangan which covers Padre Burgos was left unconcreted by the renovation made by the PNR owing to lack of funds. (Benjie Antioquia)

    13 confirmed dead

    PADRE BURGOS, Quezon — Thirteen persons were confirmed dead and over 100 others were injured after a Philippine National Railways (PNR) Train No. 580 jumped off the track and fell into a deep ravine in Barangay Duhat, this town at 2:45 a.m. yesterday.

    Philippine Army (PA) soldiers from the Southern Luzon Command (Solcom), headed by Maj. Gen. Pedro R. Cabuay, Jr.; 201st Infantry Brigade under Col. Alfonso L. Bernate, 201st commanding officer; and the Quezon provincial headquarters of the Philippine National Police were immediately dispatched to rescue the passengers and secured the area from looters who might take advantage of the accident.

    Quezon military and police officials identified five of the 13 fatalities as Celina Lauta, Miguela de Elic, Fe Aspe, Marrieta Rellos Janet Baguio and a woman identified as Margarita.

    Bernate, who immediately conducted a search and rescue operations, said that 37 persons were taken to the Quezon Provincial Medical Center where Lauta and Elic died. Nine others were taken to the MMG Clinic and nine at Camp Nakar Hospital, all in Lucena, and about 200 passengers confined at the Jane County Hospital in Pagbilao town.

    Bernate said that Lt. Balisong and his team from 76th Infantry Battalion were tasked to secure the belongings of the passengers who are just waiting to be transported to Manila by PNR rescue team.

    Initial investigation disclosed that the PNR Train No. 580 was on its way to Manila from Bicol after leaving at Guinobatan, Albay at around 6 p.m Thursday.

    The report said that four of its six coaches fell to the deep ravine after the train jumped off the track. (Jen Jorvina)

    Air Force

    VILLAMOR AIR FORCE BASE – Philippine Air Force chief Lt. Gen. Jose L. Reyes yesterday dispatched an Air Force rescue contingent to help in the rescue efforts of the derailed PNR train at Barangay Duhat, Padre Burgos in Quezon province.

    A total of five helicopters were dispatched to the site where close to 250 of the reported 450 passenger sustained injuries.

    Colonel Ricardo Banayat, the on-scene Commander for the PAF rescue efforts confirmed that seven passengers had perished due to the incident.

    An unidentified male passenger was located trapped underneath one of the 40-footer coaches that fell in the ravine. He was believed among those calling for help early dawn but could not be reached by rescuers due to the steep gradient of the ravine.

    Banayat disclosed that the man later died. PAF paramedics later located the lifeless body and used special hydraulic cutters to free the body from the wreck.

    The air assets in the area, which consisted of two Huey UH-1H, two S76 Sikorsky and one Huey 2 helicopters, were used to airlift dozens of injured victims to Lucena City for medical treatment. (Anjo Perez & Louie Perez)

    PNR suspended

    President Arroyo yesterday ordered the indefinite suspension of the Philippine National Railway operations on the Bicol line from Calamba to Legazpi City,pending the investigation on train disaster that claimed ten lives and injured almost a hundred people.

    Amid speculations that damages on the tracks might have caused the crash, the President also directed Transportation and Communication Secretary Leandro Mendoza to make a comprehensive review on the alignment of the railroad lines of the PNR south line to ensure safe operations.

    Running 70 kilometers per hour instead of the mandatory 20 kph, five of the train’s eight cars derailed and plunged down a ravine in Barangay Duhat, Padre Burgos, in Quezon. The train was traveling overnight from Naga City in Camarines Sur to Manila.

    Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita said the railway operations along the line where the accident occurred will be suspended momentarily "until such time they determine the cause of accident."

    "Secretar Mendoza was directed by the President to immediately check the situation, determine the cause of the accident and have a review of the entire railroad track in southern Luzon and find out what can be done," he said in an interview with reporters in Malacanang.

    He said normal train operations will resume after the tracks have been fully repaired and guaranteed safe for operations. (GDK)

    Pimentel’s reaction

    Senate Minority Leader Aquilino Pimentel Jr. yesterday cited the 32.1-kilometer North Rail Project as one of the more worthy projects of the government but invited Malacanang’s attention for the rehabilitation of existing railway lines in the wake of a the Quezon tragedy that has claimed the lives of at least ten persons.

    In yesterday’s Friday Balitaan Forum at Hotel Rembrandt, Quezon City, Pimentel said the incident at Padre Burgos, Quezon should serve as a wake up call for the government to act immediately in rehabilitating the existing lines of the Philippine National Railways and in making it safe for the public.

    "There is an urgent need for government to look at existing railroads and determine whether these are still safe," the senator said.

    The opposition leader noted that while government poured a fortune at implementing the North Rail Project, it has not acted at keeping the PNR tracks safe.

    At the behest of Pimentel, the Senate has opened an inquiry into the modern Caloocan-Clark railway system that will funded through $503 million foreign loan, with the bulk coming from China’s Export *Import Bank.

    Pimentel questioned the decision of the government to rid the railway of some 20,000 squatter families despite the fact that relocation sites are not ready for occupancy. (BRR)

    Mass railways review

    Senators called on the government yesterday to immediately conduct a review of the country’s mass railway system, which stretches from Tutuban to Legaspi, as they noted the need to earmark bigger fund for its development, following the train tragedy that occurred in Quezon early morning yesterday.

    Senate Majority Leader Francis Pangilinan said it is imperative that the government study ways to improve the system especially since "trains serve as the poor man’s mode of transportation,"

    As of noontime yesterday, at least 10 people were reported to have died and 155 others, wounded in the train crash. A hundred more were said to be missing of the estimated 400 passengers boarding it. The train was bound for Manila for Bicol when it slipped out of its tracks and fell off a ravine in Barangay Duhat, Padre Burgos town in Quezon province.

    Missing portion of rail bars allegedly heaped the over-speeding train off its tracks amid heavy rains until it fell.

    Pangilinan said the Philippine National Railways should be held accountable for the incident for apparent inefficiency in maintaining the railways, and promoting the safety of train passengers.

    He, thus, urged the government to consider PNR’s privatization, and determine if such would indeed cure the office’s inefficiency. "Inefficiency (anyway) has caused this national tragedy," the senator added.

    Senate Public Services Committee chairman Joker Arroyo said the tragedy reflects the country’s sad financial plight.

    He said out of the DOTC’s re-enacted budget for 2004 in the amount of P10 billion, only 1.3 percent or P135 million was allocated as subsidy for PNR’s operation and maintenance of the railways, a figure much lower that the cost of the one-kilometer NRP, estimated at P875 million.

    "PP875-million for one kilometer for North Rail Project and a measly P135 million for 600 kilometers for South line? Yet, Bicol, with the exception of Pampanga, gave the biggest majority, percentage wise in relation to population, of GMA over FPJ in all of Luzon. Clark Field and Pangasinan, here we come, beckons the North Rail Project. Halleluiah. Palakasan," the senator said. (Gabriel Mabutas)

    Villar extends sympathy

    Senator Manny Villar, president of the Nacionalista Party, yesterday extended his sympathy to the families and friends of the casualties of the ill-fated Manila-bound train that fell in a ravine in Quezon.

    Villar said the tragedy should prompt the government to rehabilitate and modernize the South Luzon rail line of the Philippine National Railways (PNR) before embarking on the North Rail project.

    "By prioritizing the rehabilitation of the South Rail line of PNR, there will be more people who will benefit from it because it runs through the provinces of Regions 4 and 5. As many people know, the residents of the cities and towns in these regions ride the train more frequently. It is the main mode of transport for majority of them," he said.

    "We should also look into reports also that the train was derailed because of rampant theft of railroad tracks, rail spikes, and other railway equipment there. There is really an immediate need for the south railway of PNR to be modernized."

    Early dawn tragedy

    Thirteen persons were killed and more than 100 others were injured at early dawn yesterday when a passenger train heading towards Manila from Legaspi City derailed and plunged into a ravine in Barangay Duhat, Pedros Burgos town, Quezon Province, the Department of Transportation and Communication (DoTC) and the Philippine National Police (PNP) reported.

    Transportation Secretary Leandro R. Mendoza, who was tasked by Malacañang to head the search and rescue (SAR) operations at presstime, said that about 120 rescuers from the PNP, including those from the Special Action Force (SAF), the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP), and the DoTC rushed to the area of accident to haul the victims and take them to nearest hospitals.

    The mishap was one of the worst in years, said Mendoza and PNP Chief Director General Edgar B. Aglipay and PNP Chief of Directorial Staff Director Enrique Galang Jr., who coordinated with local government officials to help the victims.

    Mendoza said that train, with five passenger coaches, left Legaspi City at about 3:30 p.m. Thursday and figured in the accident at about 2 a.m. yesterday.

    At presstime, DoTC and PNP men were still trying to know the identities of the fatalities through their nearest of kins and friends.

    Mendoza said that one of the survivors, passenger Edwin Carillo, called up Patrol 117 Dispatcher 2017 asking for immediate rescue and assistance. The train had 312 passengers and nine crew. Coaches Nos. 2 to six fell into a ravine, about 40 feet high in Barangay Duhat, Padre Burgos, Quezon. (Yul Malicse)
  7. Matthyro

    Matthyro Will always be re-membered

    Why is it that it takes a disaster like this to make those in charge to do something. Maintenance seems to be suffering everywhere these days from cars and trucks to aircraft.
  8. jon-monon

    jon-monon Active Member

    The sad thing is, I don't know that the accident will make them change anything. :(
  9. faroukstan

    faroukstan Member

    Matthyro - " takes a disaster... to make those in charge do something..." and Jon-Monon - " ...don't know the accidentn will makem them change anything..." Well, sad to say (and admit) and as I imagine it to happen and it's happening. Those that are in charge are doing something : TALKING for the sake of talking and will do something : congressional verbal theatrics. ALL THE WHILE the riding public are at their own risk. Whenever this sort of accident (be it maritime, aviation, etc) happens, for reason beyond my grasp, there shouldn't be no other matter at issue but the 'THING', still nothing positive is being done.

    Jon-Monon pictures of the track represent the fairly good example of the condition of most of PNR southline tracks beginning from the Tayuman Yard. A track rehabilitation (alignment,etc) for the southline had been started in early 90's to mid 90's but was not pushed thru. I believed the government changed its program and went for the the northlines which operations have been abandoned in mid 60's and which tracks have all but disappeared (to ECONOMIC VANDALS!)

    While the Philippines, and Metro Manila in particular, could pride at having highly modernized Light Rail Transit Systems ( of four lines ) that long distance commuters may have to endure. I pray that this accident should be an eye-opener, WAKE UP CALL for the authorities concerned to institute much forthcoming changes (improvement) to the graft and corruption, cash strapped Philippine National Railways......
  10. jon-monon

    jon-monon Active Member

    It looks to me like they will ignore funding problems and go after the workers (manila Times):

    Sunday November 14, 2004

    GMA: Go after those responsible for accident

    President Arroyo on Saturday ordered the prosecution of those responsible for the train derailment in Quezon on Friday that killed at least 10 people and injured more than 120 others.

    The train was traveling to Manila when four of its five cars fell into a 12-meter-deep slope in Padre Burgos town.

    The President expressed sympathy for the victims and their families and “determination to get at the root of the tragedy.”

    “Our relief agencies shall ensure that financial and other forms of assistance shall be extended to the victims’ families,” the President said in a statement. “But more than this, I want those accountable to be sanctioned, and prosecuted if need be, to the fullest extent of the law.”

    Mrs. Arroyo ordered the suspension of rail operations in “hazardous areas” between Legazpi City to Manila until they are inspected and certified safe.

    Jose Maria Sarasola II, general manager of the Philippine National Railways, said he supports the President’s call “because if it is found that there is negligence on the part of anybody . . . definitely we will be the first to prosecute them.”

    He said two machinists on the train have been restricted to their quarters pending an investigation.

    Complete story
  11. faroukstan

    faroukstan Member

    Well, that's how it is in the Philippines! The election has since past in May 2k4 and yet the politicos are still politciking! It's only in the Philippines that you find the cabinet in charge of a department is free from all responsibility and blame. It's always the worker, the rank file that gets the axe!!!! (Very, very sad). Don't you think discipline (the absence of it, i.e.) among employee is the responsibility of management/in-charge,etc??? Can't help being disgusted in the PNR Engineer/Driver wearing only a "sando", undershirt (see your pictures) while on duty. In the 50's and 60's everyone in MRR (now PNR) wore distinguishable uniforms!!!! VERY VERY SAD.

    Everybody knows that the condition of the tracks is not conducive to HIGH SPEED RUN. From what I learned from my Filipino officemate here who happened to work once with PNR) the line can allow only a maximum of 60kph. What I read now that's only 20kph!!! You can't do a 70kph on 20kph tracks (or road)..
    If there's any accounting, and finger pointing, lay it on the BUdget Commission (which is under the Office of the President) for allocating too few a peso to so long a line;lay it on the Department of Transportation and Communication under which administration the PNR operates for being "deaf, blind and mute" to the corruption going on withing PNR. One has aonly to ask who allows the hundreds (if not thousand) families living along either side of PNR track (Right of Way, is it?), the so called, in Filipino HOME ALONG DA RILES (english: Home along the rails)??
    I hope I don't sound so politicized here but I love the Philippine Railways because it has a long history.....and evoke childhood memory.....

  12. jon-monon

    jon-monon Active Member

    Yes, I wonder why theyare not pointing a finger at the engineer for going too fast? Perhaps he's dead, but that doesn't remove blame. Many are to blame here, I suspect.

    Do you follow the Northrail project? Now they want to spend P2B on removing the squatters:
  13. faroukstan

    faroukstan Member

    Northrail and ...

    Yes, I do follow the Northrail Project and the impending removal of the "HOME ALONG DA RILES" people, the squatter families residing along the trackside of PNR almost unbroken from Tutuban Station to Alabang Station (as example). These posed risk and danger to both the trains and the pedestrians. I'm for the removal of KEVIN's (Dolphy's character in telecomedy of same title) people. But, after a finding a viable, conducive resettlement area/s for them. Otherwise, these people would just come back and there's enticing intensive for the people in power to let them come back. This I experience while working for the National Housing Authority during Martial Law days of President Marcos. Just take note of Marcos success resettlement projects of Dasmarinas, Carmona-San Pedro (where a dedicated rail passenger terminal was built in 1974 but was abandoned/neglected by the Aquino administration), Sapang Palay (in Bulacan). As you can see Jon-Monon everything is politics verging on personal whims of he who is in power.....Again, Mr. Juan Dela Cruz continues to endure.....
  14. Chessie6459

    Chessie6459 Gauge Oldtimer

    Your right Jon, it doesn't remove the blame. If he is not dead or might be, he should have been watching the speed and respecting the speed limit set for the railroad. But maybe he was one of those who doesn't like to follow rules???????? But who knows.
  15. faroukstan

    faroukstan Member

    Not "follow rules"...

    You got a point there, LiveSteamer! But, then somebody, someone must enforced the rules!!! Just take a look at picture taken by Jon-Monon of the Engine driver! He is not observing any "dress code" and as if he is in his house about to take the afternoon "siesta". This is ,I believed strongly, the rock bottom of the state the PNR is in as compared to what I KNEW OF the MRR/PNR of the 50's and upto late 60's.:cry: :(
  16. Chessie6459

    Chessie6459 Gauge Oldtimer

    Your right i can see it. See then this is where they need to enforce the rules, like you said. If they don't follow the rules they should be wrote up the first time and the second time suspended with out pay and then make them go to a class, something that will make them follow the rules. I know in firefighting if you don't follow the rules of fighting fire you can get hurt or even killed, or get someone else hurt or killed. But this is railroading not firefighting. ( not downgrading my job, volunteer wise ) And as you can see there was people killed and hurt. I feel really bad for those who lost a loved one and a friend. If i was a family member i would approach the railroad about this problem and ask them WHY?
  17. jon-monon

    jon-monon Active Member

    Well I don't know what action may be taken, but the latest article I've been able to find promises to deal with the people responsible (4th paragraph):

    Monday, November 15, 2004 9:40 PM

    Probe team given 10 days to look into train mishap

    The Department of Transportation and Communication (DOTC) on Monday gave a fact-finding team 10 days to determine the cause of the train accident in Padre Burgos town, Quezon province, which killed six people.

    DOTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza said the investigation should determine those liable for the accident.

    Col. Lucas Cauton of DOTC's Office of Transportation Security was appointed head of the fact-finding team, which was created on orders of President Arroyo.

    "We will bring to justice those who will be found accountable and responsible for this tragic accident and we will prosecute them to the full extent of the law," Mendoza said.

    He said the Philippine National Railways' Calamba to Bicol route will remain closed.

    Mendoza also ordered all PNR drivers and Metro Rail Transit and the Light Rail Transit operators to undergo drug testing.

    ABS-CBN News

    I'm scouring the Philippine on-line news sources daily for anything new and posting what I find here, and in more detail in the yahoo group:
  18. Chessie6459

    Chessie6459 Gauge Oldtimer

    Your right Jon. We will bring those accountable and responsible to justice for what happened.
  19. jon-monon

    jon-monon Active Member

    I sure hope so, Matthew, but I am not as confident as you are. :(
  20. jon-monon

    jon-monon Active Member

    From the Philippine Star

    PNR insiders seek probe into P840-M Southrail line rehab
    By Rainier Allan Ronda and Paolo Romero
    The Philippine Star 11/16/2004

    Transportation authorities should look into the unfinished P840-million rehabilitation project of the Philippine National Railways south line, site of the fatal train accident in Quezon province in which 10 people were killed and more than 160 others were injured, according to PNR sources.

    And with the sorry state of the country’s railways finally getting attention, Speaker Jose de Venecia Jr. has asked Rep. Monico Puentevella, chairman of the House committee on transportation, to undertake an in-depth national study to modernize train travel from North Luzon to Mindanao.

    According to De Venecia, the study could lead to the creation of the National Railways Authority, which would be responsible for the long-planned Northrail from Manila to San Fernando in La Union, and the Southrail from Manila to Sorsogon.

    In line with this, De Venecia said he has asked President Arroyo to place the program of relocating informal railway settlers under the office of Vice President Noli de Castro. Squatter families numbering up to 45,000 live along the old PNR line going north and south of the capital.

    Puentevella, who has initiated a congressional inquiry into last Friday’s train tragedy that will start this week, admitted railway modernization has now acquired a sense of urgency following the derailment of the Manila-bound PNR train from Bicol.

    Machinists at the PNR, on the other hand, are up in arms over seeming premature insinuations that the tragic incident which hit the south line portion of the PNR railway in Padre Burgos, Quezon could have been caused by lapses on the part of the train’s driver.

    PNR insiders said the DOTC should investigate alleged irregularities within the top leadership of the PNR and suspected anomalies at the PNR head office in Caloocan City.

    In particular, they cited the $15 million or about P840-million rehabilitation of the PNR south line, which covers civil improvement works of its rail tracks, train stations and communications equipment conducted by two Australian companies that started in 1995.

    The project was never fully completed.

    "They should question the PNR general manager what happened with the multi-million rehab. Was there an audit of the rehabilitation? Did the rehabilitated rail track (cover) the portion in Barangay Duhat where the derailment happened? And more importantly, if there was no audit, why?" a PNR officer, who requested anonymity told The STAR. — With a report from Marichu Villanueva

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