PBY Catalina Consolidatrd Vultee Flying Boat

Discussion in 'Aircraft & Aviation' started by MAC99, Apr 9, 2013.

  1. MAC99

    MAC99 Member

    First thread, I have not built a bunch of these so I will fumble
    All of my models including kits to be built and all materials were lost in a fire

    So I asked a friend if he would ask around and see if some one would be willing to bring some cereal boxes......... Well he hung a bag with a sing cereal boxes needed

    After a mountain of boxes, what do you do with them what do they look like
    we want pictures so no more reasons not to post a thread
    first thing I need to figure out the pic thing
    I am all ready started with some pic they look a litile weard I am trying to show them how the boxes are used
    this is a 1:50 Marek model down loaded from the emodels site
    I like to print things that need to be bubbled on 20lbs paper so if aloud I move them to a new page after loading into adobe Illustrator then you can use the print capabilities of adobe also

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  2. zathros

    zathros SENIOR Administrator

    I go to Micheal's Crafts Stores and I found out the cannot sell their scrap paper (from their picture frame services). They have given me 50 lbs. or so of top notch paper up to a mm think and some 3' foot x 3 ' foot in size. I showed the manager of that department what I was doing with it (I also had a car full of supplies I was building, and he loaded me up, free or charge. :)
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  3. Bhelliom

    Bhelliom Member

    I'll be following this one with interest. This model was one of my first paid downloads, a few years ago. I have it printed, but just never got around to building it.

    Zathros, I'll have to ask about scrap stock next time I take my daughter to Michaels for college art supplies. Thanks for the suggestion, it might work for her, too.

    Scott K.
  4. MAC99

    MAC99 Member

    so off the street to a free load up that is grate
    is it the soft easy like the cereal boxes or the harder more like the mat board

    If it the soft as soon as I am off driving restriction Medical reasons
    that could be a never ending supply

    I have taken the driving restriction as an affront and mental challenge
    some body walk up to you takes your wallet and sates no more driving until
    we decide other why's

  5. MAC99

    MAC99 Member

    It would be nice if you could start it you mite be able to keep me on the right trake

    I am building the frame work in what looks to be the sections that would shaping or skinning I guess you guys say panels when I work on the planes we said skins
    in the pics are some of the sub frames you can see that I am using skewers
    these are the larger ones. I use a Japaneses paper punch and I fount you can hold just the 2mm one in your hand it is easy to push and turn the skewer thought it sharp end first,in pic found my daughter nail sander foam middle fine on one side and a little courser on the other It works grate to flatten or shape and even up. The little thing is a bead ream meant for the center holes in glass beads very good on paper sharp enough to clean cut paper, also at michael s

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  6. zathros

    zathros SENIOR Administrator

    I tried to build one of these and failed miserably. I was quite young, but it's utter failure marked me for life. Maybe it's time to overcome that. I love these airplanes and yours is coming out really nice! :)
  7. MAC99

    MAC99 Member

    zathros Thank you I have never heard that about any of my models before
    is that past board or mat you are getting

    this one seems to be a good one to build it is only $3.00 on ecardmodels
    That big read meat ball that always seemed to be in the way is gone I must have not been the only to email about it

    see in pics I have some of the hull skins panels on I did falter and got some glue on the surface

    But the blunder the wing is mounted above the fuse with a cool looking coulmb it curves up in the front to fit the wing profile looking say right to left
    from it should pointy in front and rounded in the rear
    see pic I built the internal parts to be rounded in the front

    there seems to be many parts not shown on the plane
    Maybe some can let me know the channels to designer permission to add to the plan view
  8. MAC99

    MAC99 Member

    Pics didn't make it
  9. MAC99

    MAC99 Member

    maybe this time

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  10. Bhelliom

    Bhelliom Member

    Nowhere near as good as yours will be, but here's a couple of pictures of the one I built 11 years ago. All I had were thumbnails from the site it was being sold on back then. No idea then how to translate the site, or buy the model. As soon as Dewayne Barnett made it available, I bought one.

    This one used card for the frame, and regular copy paper for the skin, and it shows. Never did finish the fine details.

    Scott K.

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  11. MAC99

    MAC99 Member

    I think I have seen that model it has about 6 liver I wounder if copy paper would do the trick and shrink every you used glue I was thinking I bite work if rubber cement was used, it would be plenty fragile in any case I think

    This model is only $3.00 on ecard models Did I just repeat my self

    Let me know how you gys think the pics are looking. I am using a Kindle Fire HD it does not have a view finder I have to lean forward and look at the screen the best I can and hold it and snap the pic with the other hand
  12. MAC99

    MAC99 Member

    Bhelliom yours and this one have the same numbers

    well here we are with total profe that I am unable to build any more
    I think I am at the round file
    I have many prismacolors but they bled badly
    I have a full set of water colors pencils but cant it on the edge of the paper
    order of assembly was off I did hull frist but hull goes over the hull plating
    The worst transgression in the fight to get skins under hull I forget how to work with clean hands and....glue every
    If I could figure out how to use watercolor pencils I would give it a second go
    Info should be some where

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  13. Bhelliom

    Bhelliom Member

    Looking good, Mac. Sorry if I wasn't clear before, mine is the same kit. I just built it from slightly enlarged thumbnail pictures. The smaller bits were almost too fuzzy to use, that and my fat fingers are why it still isn't done yet.

    Scott K.
  14. MAC99

    MAC99 Member

    ah you have fatties all so and the older fatties less workable

  15. vbsargent

    vbsargent Member

    I agree with Bhelliom, it looks pretty darn good to me. I use an inexpensive set of watercolors that I got at the craft store, or Walmart, I can't remember which. It has 36 different colors, and you can mix these within a hair of pretty much anything. I use a 10x0 brush that allows me to be very exact with the placement of my pigments.

    Don't give up, if nothing else look at it as a practice model, but I think that it looks quite good.

  16. MAC99

    MAC99 Member

    Thank You for your support

    I have remembered thread a very good one about mixing to match another color I don't remember if it is on zealots or paper moderlers
    It was very well done by swampfox

    a little searching and it will turn up
    I will do a little reading and practices and be back it is a learning model I just hope I can remember what that I learned


  17. MAC99

    MAC99 Member

    Help with wing building

    I have been back about 3 weeks from a hospital stay and I would like to finish this Plane. I have built the simple wings with no ribs but this one is the devil.

    I printer and tried-printed and tried- you get the Idea What is the sequence
    when i glue the trailing edge I cant make it tight to the ribs or glue the inter ribs. When I try to glue to the bottom and pull the skin over the to the trailing does not line up and the panel is wrinkled same thing starting with the top panel

    It has been some time from the last post I hope some one is still looking in

    I will have go back to the hospital 2 more times I want to finish the PBY
    this time I will be able to bring some small models FG stuff

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  18. zathros

    zathros SENIOR Administrator

    I would recommend the "sock" method. Glue the trailing edges together, or, tape them with a very light holding tape, the kind that is mean to be removed, then slip the assembly in there. You will start with the smallest wing rib, when it fits, the add the next wing rib. Eventually, you will have trimmed it to shape and it will fit snug, then you glue. Of course, shape the wing roughly to the shape you need, if you make sure the ribs and spar are strong, and it should fall into shape, (laminate the spares if you must, just remember that you may have to sand or cut any outer lamination a bit, not much, smaller as you work your way to the tip. If you find any to be too small, a strip of paper around the wing rib will bring it back to spec, and give a greater gluing area. Excessive glue will assure a strong wing. This is not an easy plane. The fuselage looks great by the way.

    I am sorry you are in the Hospital so much. I hope all is well. Please keep in touch. Recover with all Godspeed! :)
  19. MAC99

    MAC99 Member

    Thank you for the well wishes


    When you said trim a little did you mean the trailing edge or ribs?
    I do like your method I will use it for the wing tips.

    the BIG problem(in my mind) I can't .... is with the center section which is strait. I match up the trailing edge and glue this is after shaping first.
    After sliding the rib spar ass amble the skin is not down tite to the ribs in the middle and there is no access to glue.

    This is a long section maby if I use rubber cement and slide the ribe and spar assamble in before it is totally dry it will only open up to what it needs, hmmmm this mite work, This is grate if I keep talking to you guys with all the info and start my thinking I will have it. This mite work with out wrinkle the skin
  20. zathros

    zathros SENIOR Administrator

    I would keep the main spare where it should be. Start with the smallest, outer rib only, when that lines up, by either trimming, or adding onto the rib, then add the next rib, and continue the process till the whole unit slides in and fits. Then remove and add glue to each rib, and tops and bottom of main spar, and slide into sock/wing. It will hold, and you will have a nice fitting assembly that supports but does not give a "skeleton" effect. If you post a picture with the center section in relation to the wings, I can tell you how to do that, I suspect you will glue the main spars and skin afterwards.:)

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