"PaperLaul's Terminator 2: Hunter Killer Aerial - by DanBKing"

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by DanBKing, Aug 21, 2015.

  1. skoda

    skoda Genius Designer Master Builder

    I though tuning and taped on the same sheet of paper is better

    Better print 2X

    otherwise super busy
    DanBKing likes this.
  2. DanBKing

    DanBKing Active Member

    @skoda It has been your builds, with all the layered texturing, that has inspired me, to do what I am doing with this model.:)

    The model of the HK, when built from the template, is very "edgy" and I wish to achieve a smoother, more fluid finish.
    Unfortunately, the joins between the paper parts and the textured panels do not match up. :(

    Once assembled, the curves and contours of the model are very complex and to achieve a seamless run across a panel requires one piece of paper/card cut to the formed shape of the panel. On some of these panels, there are compound curves in all 3 directions at once...... Water is my friend here.. Make it damp and coerce the part to form. If the part is small enough, even the moisture from your fingers is enough....

    The pic below demonstrates what I mean... The circled (white) panel is one complete piece, whereas the underlying texture has 4 seams across the panel.


    I have got to get this right and get it all smoooooooth...... ;)
    Because chrome finishes are a b***h to get right.....:meh:

    One cat hair ....... That's all it takes .........:headbange:

    But, I do love my cat ............ :biggrin:
  3. micahrogers

    micahrogers Active Member

    chrome finishes are the bane of my model painting existence, having said that, the best I've seen is the Alcad II system...
    DanBKing likes this.
  4. DanBKing

    DanBKing Active Member

    With my findings too......... I've tried all manufacturers that claim a "chrome finish".....

    Alclad II..... The winner for me.........:)

    This is a good tutorial vid about chroming with Alclad II........

  5. skoda

    skoda Genius Designer Master Builder

    aha I understand that there are gaps

    I think you need gaps between panels
  6. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator

    @skoda : The problem is, the shapes do not follow the curvature. Straight shapes make straight gaps which looks weird on the model.

    I suggest to try-and-error the shape using some regular paper and cut it to shape. :)
  7. ----zathros---

    ----zathros--- -----SENIOR---- Administrator

    If you make a part to "greeble" onto a surface, if it is a thick part, sand the part to get the contour, and do so with the underside so it sticks on, not with a big glob of glue, but contoured to fit the shape. Water forming, sanding, using two part epoxy, and forming a shape, all these techniques are acceptable. Sandpaper is under used, and in my opinion, people make really wide panel lines. I think it is important to know if the lines are the edges of two parts over lapped, or edge to edge, or are they "Armor" protection. I see some beautiful models, mostly jet aircraft, with massively thick panel lines, and it kills me because that just show a complete lack of knowledge of how these aircraft are made. My feeling is that a model should imitate well, what you saw in the movie, but if there is an area chosen to be greebled, then at lest have a knowledge of what that area does. I have seen panel lines on jets that is scaled up would be 1.5" inches wide, when in fact, most aircraft, that are riveted together, start from the front, with the tail end of the panel, overlapping the front of the next panel, then those pieces are riveted into a the framing/bulkheads. Study the picture below. When the skin of an aircraft reaches it's end, and the two pieces meet, customarily, they are overlapped, rarely put edge to edge. Panel lines are usually caused by light reflecting on the higher panel, and making a shadow. Unless it is an opening, like a fuel access door.

    My two cents worth :)

    panel and rivet lines.jpg
    This picture actually is trying to explain something and does a good job but where it says "Panel Line, it should look like this, (in the picture above, the aircraft, or whatever, would be in danger of losing that panel, that is not how anything riveted is made!):

    panel vs Rivet lines.jpg
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2015
  8. DanBKing

    DanBKing Active Member

    To add to my excitement of finishing the Discovery project this week, look what I received from my airbrushing mate this evening ...........

    General_660.JPG General_661.JPG General_662.JPG

  9. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator


    Leuk is geen woord hier... HEELEMAAL PRACHTIG!!!!
    DanBKing likes this.
  10. DanBKing

    DanBKing Active Member

    SUPER MOOI!! Ik ben heel erg blij met het resultaat!!!!!:animated:

    Now, after seeing this, I have got the motivation to get this baby finished ........... ;):)
    But, ............................
    I have one other project I want to finish off first............. But, it won't take long to do!!! ;)
    Cforrest900 likes this.
  11. ASC Mclaren

    ASC Mclaren Member

    Good God, that looks great!
    DanBKing likes this.
  12. Cforrest900

    Cforrest900 Member

    DanBKing likes this.
  13. skoda

    skoda Genius Designer Master Builder

    DanBKing likes this.
  14. ----zathros---

    ----zathros--- -----SENIOR---- Administrator

    Beautiful finiah. It looks like the picture of a real engine, not a part of a model! :)
    DanBKing likes this.
  15. DanBKing

    DanBKing Active Member

    Apologies for the lack of updates. You know, life and that stuff.........:Computer::Coffee::drinksmile::wacky::biggrin:

    Anyway, here and there, I have been dabbling.......

    I at last got around to finishing off the finish, (in Finland,) of the engines. :)

    As the paper has now been coated with: 2 coats primer, 2 coats gloss black base, the chrome finish and 3 coats of clear, I think the paper is now well sealed in a paint cocoon.......
    As it now stands, the whole engine is a super chrome finish, but, it lacks in depth ..........
    The recessed and raised panels are 'lost' in the mirror effect.......

    So, I decided to give each engine a wash.......
    The wash was made up of about 75% water mixed with 25% black and blue acrylic artists paint, with a brush tip of washing up liquid! The final consistency/density was similar to a cup of coffee.
    Using a thin paintbrush, loaded with the wash, I filled the panel lines and other areas with this concoction. The washing up liquid helps the paint/pigment to flow......

    General_674.JPG General_673.JPG

    I left it all to dry for about an hour and did the whole wash process another two times.
    So, three hours later, everything was dry.

    I then used pieces of an old T-shirt, slightly dampened, and carefully cleaned off the excess wash.
    I then left it once more to thoroughly dry and then buffed up the chromed finish, leaving the wash in the cracks, so to speak....

    In the pics below, the engine on the left has had the wash treatment, the other not. It is subtle, but it makes a difference.
    Eventually, the whole model will have this treatment. I am happy with the outcome of the engines. They are a test bed for the rest of the model..... :)

    General_675.JPG General_676.JPG General_677.JPG

    Photographing these things is a nightmare. They look nothing like they do to the naked eye.
    But, I think you get a good idea.;)

    See ya! :wave:
  16. Lee Clifton

    Lee Clifton Wisdom and Kindness, A Zealot Sage

    Just amazing! I've always wanted a model of the flying Hunter Killer and the tank version. Will keep watching this build for more highlights.
    DanBKing likes this.
  17. micahrogers

    micahrogers Active Member

    Lovely Dan... just lovely. Great use of the wash technique.
    DanBKing likes this.
  18. spaceagent-9

    spaceagent-9 Right Hand Man and Confidant

    man those are beautiful!!!! I bet you are proud, i'm really enjoying looking at them!
    DanBKing likes this.
  19. ----zathros---

    ----zathros--- -----SENIOR---- Administrator

    Oh now you're just showing off! These are the best! :)
    DanBKing likes this.
  20. DanBKing

    DanBKing Active Member

Share This Page