New Homes & Basements

Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by rockislandmike, Aug 26, 2002.

  1. rockislandmike

    rockislandmike Active Member

    My wife has decided we need to move up the date we buy our first home, to next summer/fall. Good news for my final layout, although my 7 x 12 would more than occupy my time for another year.

    Not only that, but when she was checking the regional MLS listings online, she was specifically noting those homes that would have an acceptable basement for my layout. :D :D
  2. Woodie

    Woodie Active Member

    Bannished to the basement, hey Mike! :(
  3. rockislandmike

    rockislandmike Active Member

    Would certainly be better than the uninsulated garage, esp. in our winters !!!
  4. Woodie

    Woodie Active Member

    We don't have basements. We get banished to the back shed.
  5. Ahhhh, but such lovely contentment, that banishment;) :D :D
  6. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

    The condition of "banishment to the back shed" depends on just how "back shed" the back shed is.
    At some point, I'm going to want all my living space on one level.
    My knees aren't going to love stairs, so the idea of a back shed, vice the stairs down to the basement, has a certain appeal. And, there won't be a hot water heater, furnace, or laundry in the way.
    :) :) :)
  7. Vic

    Vic Active Member

    Hey Mike, I had a full basement once. Although I throughly enjoyed having 2500 sq ft. to play in there were some drawbacks:
    1. Cost me "a bundle" to extend heat and air conditioning into it.
    2. Cost me "another bundle" to finish it off.
    3. Climbing stairs got old after awhile.
    4. Moisture was a problem.
    5. Doubled my power bills for heat and air.
    6. Was like having a second house to clean.
    7. No outside entrance.
    8. Etc Etc Etc

    A standard attached 2 car garage is 20x20 plus utility space, easily insulated, easily enclosed, has outside access, already wired, level concrete floor, easily finished and etc.

    Know that you have some harsh winters so you may not be able to devote a garage to a "play aera" but just some thoughts.
  8. rockislandmike

    rockislandmike Active Member

    Ack no way I want 2500 square feet anyways. Our deal is that I get half the basement, and I don't think I'd want any more than 500 square feet. That gets me like a 25x20 space (+/-), and that will be more than enough to satiate my layout cravings............................................
  9. 60103

    60103 Pooh Bah

    We're in our third house now, but the first used one. This one came with well finished basement room -- walls, ceiling and floor tiles.
    It looks like you're thinking about a used house? Definitely check the basement for posts holding up the centrebeam--with luck they'll be hidden behind walls.
    You'll probably want a de-humidifier for the basement. Concrete gives off water for years.
    If the basement isn't finished, do it before starting the layout.
    Check the level in the basement floor when you put the layout in. I forgot to, and my grades are 4% instead of 2%. (You can't fix the floor, but you can adjust the layout.)
    Remember that anything made of wood, plaster, mortar and bricks can be changed.

    My wife aalways tells real estate people that I have a railway. She also mentions our library.
  10. Vic

    Vic Active Member

    Likes Banishment

    Hey Pete and Woodie, I've been banished to the back shed since 1990....and I love it!!!!:D Enclosed a detached two car garage.:) Dang thing was built in 1939. Nobody/nothing here but me, the railroad, an amatuer radio station and a computer...what more could I want???:D :D :D
  11. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

    What more could you want!!????, how about plenty of cold beer, inexpensive brass narrow gauge locos ( that run! ), and no stinking tiny springs that have to be handled with tweezers!:D :D :D :D :D :D
  12. rich maiorano

    rich maiorano Member

    guess am with woodie and vis and been sent to the shed how if i can get CFO to release the funds I can start building my layout:mad: rich
  13. Vic

    Vic Active Member


    Hey Pete, About those tiny springs.....I gave up on tweezers....I use the Xacto knife to handle them...slip the tip of the balde between the coils and then use it like to pencil to insert them where you want to. I usually put the tip of the blade near one end of the spring so it can be compressed if necessary. Still loose some but not near as many. I wonder where the $#%^ things go when they "take off"....haven't found one yet!!!:D

    1. Cold Beer ....I got:D :D :D
    2. Cheap Brass that runs.....We're both dreaming:D :D :D
    3. Little springs...Like can't live with 'em or without 'em:D :D
  14. marty w.

    marty w. Member

    Those springs meet up with the socks at the washing machine and run away together. :D :D :D :) :) :) :)
  15. marty w.

    marty w. Member

    When in the hell did I become a Senior Member?
    I don't need this forum to remind me of that.
    Do I get discounts now?
    :) :) :) :) :D :D :D :D :D :) :) :) :) :) :)
  16. Basement Good

    Michael, You'll love the basement, plenty of room, no restrictions to growth, Cool in the summers, room for a workshop as well, you'll just need to put in a dumb waiter for those quick snacks and cold beer requirements...basements are the best.....:D :D
  17. Ralph

    Ralph's for fun!

    Best of luck on the new home (and especially the new basement!) search Mike. After years in apartments a suitable basement was high on my list of priorities while my wife thought about things like kitchens and bedrooms. :) Advice already posted above regarding finishing the basement to your satisfaction is important to note. Any finishing work you do may delay the start of the layout but in the end you'll be so much happier and won't have to tear the railroad apart when the need for basement renovations finally must be addressed. By the way, my wife immediately lost interest in any home we looked at if the basement wasn't a good one. She's terrific! It sounds like you are also blessed with a model railroader's best friend.
  18. 60103

    60103 Pooh Bah

    Tiny Springs

    Vic & Pete:
    Tip from years ago. When you work with Kadee coil springs or truck springs, put a long piece of thread through the spring before you pick it up on the knife. It doesn't fly away as far and you can see the thread. Then take the thread out.
    Also look at the Kadee spring pik, which has a pair of bumps that fit ino the coils.
  19. eightyeightfan1

    eightyeightfan1 Now I'm AMP'd


    I'm in the attic......You know how hot it gets up there. Early mornings and late nights in the summer for working on the layout.Sometimes I wish I should of done a desert railway instead of northwest Connecticut.....this way the tempature would match the scenery.
  20. Vic

    Vic Active Member

    Thanks David

    Hi David, That's a great tip about the thread thru the springs. I certainly am going to try that the next time I have to deal with those little devils:) :D THANK YOU!!!!:) :) :)

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