mice and trees

Discussion in 'HO Scale Model Trains' started by WPSteve, Jan 4, 2006.

  1. WPSteve

    WPSteve New Member

    Hi, as I get into this tree making a question pops up... I have a
    mice problem, have done everything I can to control them but they
    keep popping up. The question I have is, has anyone come up with a
    spray for the trees that would discourage the little critters.
    The trees featured on this site ( tree making at yahoo) should present no problem but I went
    to the site for making trees using "Super Trees". Cool and helpful
    site but I notice on the trees there are left overs from what may
    have been seed pods. I pick these off, spray the tree with adheasive
    and then sprinkle with ground foam. I am then spraying with hair
    The hair spray smells great after the glue but I wonder about it
    My wife has never had problems with mice in her hair :D but I wonder
    about all of the above.
    Years ago I went out in the fields and cut some weeds, sprayed them
    with paint( had pods ) and one day the mice came in and logged the
    area !
    So I am going to try to outrun them if I can this time.
    No I am not going to get a cat, we have rattlesnakes that are suppose
    to be taking care of this type of problem out there but I'm sure my
    family won't let me open the doors and let them patrol the layout
    room. Would make an exciting operation session. :thumb: The war game guys
    might want to consider this possibility :) I know when I play paint
    ball they are on my mind when I dive behind that log for
    protection !!!

    Anyway what do we think on this one ? I know that getting rid of the mice is the solution but until then ?

    WP Steve
  2. kadidle

    kadidle Member

    Just a thought, but maybe one of those electronic pest eliminator doo-dads? I have cats, and they do a good job of eliminating the pests, however they regularly terrorize the LPB's... :(
  3. capt_turk

    capt_turk Member

    The best thing for mice that I've found is the Combat Sticky traps. The mice I've had laugh at regular traps and posion. The sticky traps are the only thing that has worked for me.
  4. David Rosser

    David Rosser Member

    Another Anti-mouse idea

    We also had mice problems. They seemed to really like the inside of a short tunnel. I realized I had a problem when some locos slowed and stuttered as they went into the tunnel. It seems the mice were also using the seclusion of the tunnel as a latrine! Shy mice? I got one with the sticky trap, and several with conventional traps. The secret seemed to be to alternate the location and type of trap each night. I took a picture of one dead mouse, with bulging eyes, in the trap at the mouth of the tunnel. I then transfered it to sheet with warnings in four languages and bold print that told them that this is what happenes to mice that enter this layout, and posted copies at each corner. The combination of all of these steps fixed the problem. Or was it the fact that the nearby container of dog food was converted to a steel can?
  5. Relic

    Relic Member

    I too have mice as well as the afore mentioned spiders (I also have cats , that have no interest whatsoever in the mice) anyway the only grief the rodents have caused thus far(three years) is to knock over a couple of ho motorcycles an stuff buildings with seeds.I know this doesn't help you but I like that story
  6. witeagle

    witeagle New Member

    Catch the mice

    you should catch the mice, tie them to the railroad tracks like they do in cartoons :)
  7. TinGoat

    TinGoat Ignorant know it all

    Overfed cats...

    Hi Relic,

    It's obvious that you are overfeeding your cats. If they were hungry, they'd go for the mice. :D

    If mice are a problem for your trees, you might consider using wire armitures instead of tasty weeds.

    Peppermint oil is supposed to repel mice too... And all your LPB's will have fresh breath. :thumb:

    Lastly, stuff every crack, nook and cranny in the train room with aluminum scrubbing pads and caulk. They won't be able to get in, and they won't try to chew a new hole through the metal....

    I used steel wool around the house, but you don't want any steel wool in the train room. It'll wreck your motors.
  8. lester perry

    lester perry Active Member

    My railroad is in an old pony barn the previous home owner built. I put in a concrete floor and built an addition. I did everything I could think of top prevent mice and they came anyway. Someone told me moth balls will run them off so I tried it. They didn't say how many to use, so I figured a couple of boxes ought to be enough. You know sometimes model railroaders can do dumb stuff. After about 2 days I went in to check out the mouse problem. It took 10 to 15 seconds for me to come back out. I couldn't breath from the moth ball fumes. It took about 2 weeks of open ventilation with fans after removing the moth balls before I could do any railroading. The mice? HA! they were gone. But they came back. I have found that moth balls do work good. Just not 2 boxes at one time. I also use mouse poison which lasts a long time because they don't like moth balls.
  9. jim currie

    jim currie Active Member

  10. pgandw

    pgandw Active Member

    The eastern North Carolina remedy for mice and rats was to allow black snakes to live in the crawl space under the house. Seriously! Those who had a snake or two in the crawl space had no problem with mice or rats. Those who didn't, did. However, coming across a snake in your kitchen isn't any more fun than dealing with mouse nests. Don't ask me how I know!

    Here in California, I keep the cat hungry enough to mostly keep the mice at bay and put a serious dent in the gopher population in the lawn. The only drawback is the cat's way of letting me know he is on the job.

    yours in animal husbandry
  11. steveNSimes

    steveNSimes New Member

    The best thing I found was to use a regular trap or three or four baited with peanut butter and 1 or two oat flakes. I live in the country and when we boought our house we had alot of mice, but after a while they all died or left. By the way I even got three moles with this. and my old cats (both 14 when we moved in) didn't care about the mice and my daughters kitten/cat didn't know what to do and lost interest. Now my old cats are both gone and two outside cats have shown up, and so far this season I haven't had any mice or signs of them. I still bait the traps and rebait every couple of weeks.
  12. Relic

    Relic Member

    Mothballs are also good for cleaning out a stove, when the window gets black,n, smokey chuck in a few balls ,cleans it right up (do not leave unattended0. They are also good octane boost, when I used to run stockcar we'ed put a few in the gas tank adds a few horsepuppys. Pgandw, What kind of cat do you have?!? I;ve seen cats that'v tackeled gophers, they didn't fair so well
  13. lester perry

    lester perry Active Member

    Ok now what kind of stove are you talking about. I have an airtight wood stove with glass door that stays nasty looking. Is this what you are talking about.
  14. green_elite_cab

    green_elite_cab Keep It Moving!

    You know, can'ts aren't bad for layouts. it just depends on the personality of your cat. My one cat is scared to death of everything, but she sits next to my layout all the time. she never goes on it, and she only rarely started stepping through locomtovies and rolling stock that i put on a near by box, but that was my fault. she would chase a mouse.

    another (of 3) cats i have doesn't bother the trains either, but hes even worse for hunting things. he brings them home from the woods as presents. the 3third cat just sits there, and isn't afraid but won't go on the table.

    if you luck out and get the right kind of cat, you should have no trouble.
  15. Relic

    Relic Member

    Lester. I'll be honest I never tried it in a wood stove .Years ago (in my heavily medicated days) I had an old oil space heated that would smoke up 'cause it had waaaaay too much stovepipe and it would smoke up the little window so being adventurous I threw in a handfull of mothballs.The stove sounded like four jets and literally jumped off the floor.and about two feet of pipe turned red, but it cleaned the little window.So if your feeling adventureous,it'll clean your glass
  16. pgandw

    pgandw Active Member

    Luckily for the cat, California gophers are wimps compared to their Midwest counterparts. The kitty came from the Humane Society, no particular breed, grew up to be 20 lbs. Loves to hunt all night, pretty fearless except for our puppy. Has taken on blue jays and won, but runs from a dschund puppy. Hung a bell collar on him to reduce the number of presents being left, but he still gets enough to make the gophers and mice move on to greener pastures for the most part.
  17. green_elite_cab

    green_elite_cab Keep It Moving!

    my cat one cat. is a snake hunter. and we saw him attack a deer once. hes tiny to, but he was a stray from Staten Island. that explains it. he's a street cat.
  18. TinGoat

    TinGoat Ignorant know it all

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