I went to my local train Hobby shop this weekend to look for a possibly new engine to buy. I Looked at the engine's they had and asked to see an engine i could buy for less then $100 dollars? The person told me they don't have any lionel engine's that cost less then $100. I was like they should at least possibly have a junky engine with some paint chips and wear for at least less then 100, but no. So what was the Cheapest lionel engine cost(mostly from the 50's-70's)that i could find was they start from $195 and up and mind you, that's with no box. Not even mint. WOW, was all i could think. My question is, are people buying these old engine's for $195, with old wires, and used, or do most of you buy your engine's off of ebay? I mean there old and they don't come with a warranty, and the one's i bought, have had electrical problems, and used motor's not worth $195, just my opinion. What's yours? Do you still shop and buy from your local train hobby shops and seen similar stuff there as well?