take a look at this link. In case it is taken off I have copied the Text. Lionel SP "Black Widow" F-3 Shells....Real BAD Paint - (eBay item 220141535517 end time Aug-28-07 10:15:10 PDT) Lionel SP "Black Widow" F-3 Shells....Real BAD Pain [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]tem Specifics - Grading (Model RR, Trains)[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif]Grading: [/FONT]C-1 Junk, Parts Value Only DON'T BE THE ONLY ONE !! Here is your LAST chance to get screwed..... just like I did! Buy this pair of Lionel F-3 shells "custom" painted by Steve Latta at Nostalgia Train Works in Escondido, CA in what he calls "prototype artwork" of Southern Pacific's black widow paint scheme. You won't have to wait more than 5 months as I did (promised in 6 weeks) to what Latta calls "Guaranteed"," Museum quality", "Prototype Artwork" and "Professional" painting and restoration. Yes, now you can have an almost matched pair of shells with all the numerous paint voids, paint checks, orange peel, overspray, absolutely hideous masking in all 3 colors, sloppy and muddy printing, no nose herald, paint chips and the wrong numbers. If you are dumb enough to bid on these, I'll send them to you right away. You will not have to wait. But, frankly, I have seen better paint jobs done by a 10 year old with a spray can. Don't like them? That's Tough !! I won't refund your money, just like Latta refuses to refund mine. I just don't know what Latta means by "guaranteed". However, I won't lie to you: you are getting a real crappy "custom" paint job. Maybe you would like to have a good laugh in your collection. That's it! Show your friends just what "museum quality" really means. By comparison, everything else in your collection will be "mint". You can't beat this deal. Where else could you upgrade your collection and have so much fun for only $200.00? This item is relisted. I don't understand why there isn't just one person out there who wants to avoid listening to an endless list of lies and excuses when you can 'take it in the shorts' right now. I will ship to Canada, France, Nigeria, Iran, Cuba, San Francisco and any other country that supports our glorious paradise seeking terrorists.