Homasote for new experiment in Toronto?

Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by moria, Jan 20, 2005.

  1. moria

    moria Member

    Greetings all :thumb:

    Quick question.. I am going to build a small minimum space HO layout with Sound and DCC and the works.. yes I know N-gauge for 30 years and now I try playing elsewhere :eek:, so call me stupid.. it will be one of the better things I have been called over the years.

    I am going to build the layout as a jigsaw layout, so there will be a flat base of plywood and then jigsaw pieces cut to match the depth of the track bed on top of the plywood so I can vary the scenery to change the layout.. initial plans are GTW/CN steam/diesel 1940 - 60 and UK Great Western around 1930's - 40's (Remember I said you could call me stupid? :D ).

    My first thought was to use Homasote, but when I went into my local Home Depot up in North Toronto the guy looked at me as if I had just sworn and said.. never heard of it.

    Sooooo is Homasote available in Toronto, and if so where.

    I am actually in North York/Markham, but have car will travel

    Regards and Thanks in advance.
  2. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    Hi Graham, there is nothing stupid in that fantastic venture AT ALL!!!!!!

    Being an expatriat I love to see the old lines being modeled did it my self once :thumb:
    I was born 1948 Manchester and grew up with the steamer, train spotting on many a day .

    Now I know Spitfire has just laid homasote on her lay out.
    so pm spitfire for info.
    Keep us posted :D
  3. moria

    moria Member

    Hi Chris :)

    Yep, am also an ex pat, although I have only been here a couple of years.

    Modelling the GWR is second nature to me.. you know.. GWR Branch line terminus.. etc etc and I brought most of my reference books with me. My huge learning curve is local railways :)

    Anyway, after a lot of planning and a few compromises, I have a trackplan and an idea to be able to build a small base layout (mainly a freight yard) and then be able to completely change the style, location and period by interchanging pieces on the layout (mainly buildings etc).. will be fun if it works, a truly generic layout that can be themed for use :)

    Will do the PM thing later, just glad it is known about :)


  4. theBear

    theBear Member

    Homasote has a web site http://www.homasote.com/ and page with a dealer locator, however that page seems locked to US queries.

    They also have a toll free number [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] 800-257-9491
    Sales: Extension 1500
    [/font] a call might just get you the information you are seeking.
  5. grumbeast

    grumbeast Member

    Hi Graham!,

    I'm another Graham who has a thing for the GWR. I confess I gave up on a dual themed layout but I think they can work. I'm lucky enough to have a little more space I can plonk a small GWR n scale layout in (when I get around to it)

    Welcome!.. I'm really looking forward to see how this turns out. Hope the gauge can be of help!

  6. moria

    moria Member

    Hi Graham :)

    Yep GWR is in the blood, literally :)

    I am planning on calling the new layout the GWR because in my research, even though it only lasted till the late 1800's.. 1884 I think from memory, the section of the GTW/CN that I want to model was origionally the Great Western Railway of canada.

    Seems to me thats enough of a remote coincidence to be the basis for a model :)


  7. Matthyro

    Matthyro Will always be re-membered

    Graham, if you can't find homosote try using 1/2 inch pink foam sold at Home Depot and other lumber stores. I tried homosote and didn't like it. The pink foam is so much easier to use.
  8. davido

    davido Member

    look for stained glass supply stores. assembliers use homosote to pin the glasses pieces together before soldering.
  9. Will_annand

    Will_annand Active Member

    OK, Robin, I used the 2" Blue Foam, what is the difference?
  10. spitfire

    spitfire Active Member

    Will, the 2" foam is about an inch thicker than the 1".
    :D :D :D :D :D

    Graham, I still haven't gotten around to digging through my bank statements to find that supplier. Have you had any luck on your own yet?

  11. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    Hi Graham,

    I just phoned a friend who use`s Homasote, He could only get it from
    Lancing buildall, Kennady south of the 401 it was a while ago so phone them first.
    Cost then was $40 a sheet and only 1/2 inch ouch!!
    Ernie said you will have to brace it well as it will warp over time.
  12. Matthyro

    Matthyro Will always be re-membered

    Will, there doesn't seem to be a difference in the density of blue versus pink. Both come in 1/2 inch to 2 inches thick
  13. Will_annand

    Will_annand Active Member

    Thanks Robin.
    I know that things went a lot faster here since I picked up the foam. I am almost finished laying the track. Only the Wye left to fit.
  14. moria

    moria Member

    Thanks all for the info :)

    Val.. hold of on the digging I have, I think, found an alternative :)

    I made up a trial board yesterday.. combination of 2x1 and 3x1 framing and bracing with a thin plywood top and then a layer of 1" foam on top. With a layer of cork under the track, it seems that there is enough rigidity with the plywood base to mount tortoises reliably and I also get the easiness of foam for cutting out my jigsaw pieces for the scenery, and the plywood gives the rigidity for dimensional stability. Additionally, a 4x2 board with facia and backdrop attatched is easily liftable by me alone, which is a distinct bonus for moving it from the train room to in front of the TV to work on :thumb:

    I did get an email from Homasote and they said they didn't have a regular distributer in Toronto, and nothing guaranteed.

    It's looking like Homasote is.. up here, an expensive solution which may not have that much of a benefit.. only time will tell :)

    I will try laying and powering up some proper tackwork today on the new trial board and see what happens since I am going nowhere with all this snow around :)

    That way I will have something, albeit a small something to try my BLI switcher with sound on when it arrives this week, along with the Switch-it Stationary decoders to power the tortoises.

    Regards all
  15. K.V.Div

    K.V.Div Member

    Hi Graham,

    I have also tried finding homasote up here in Canada (Allbeit on the west(Wet) coast) but have found that there are very few supplyers who carry it.
    The closest product available that I am aware of is called "Donacona Board" also known by other names such as: Pressboard, Paperboard, Beaver Board, Buffalo Board and Blackout Board.
    It is not as dense or strong as Homasote, however, we do use it on our NTrak and oNeTrak modules between the plywood and track roadbed as a sound reducer and I Intend to use it for the same purpose on my new soon to be started layout.

  16. davido

    davido Member

  17. 60103

    60103 Pooh Bah

    When I built my layout, a friend phoned all the lumber dealers in the yellow pages and found one in North York that stocked Homasote and would deliver. I think it was the 3rd one in, but that was 12 years ago.
    Really, modelling the Greasy Wet and Rusty? Not the SDJR?
    check www.theplatelayers.org for local support.

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