Favorite steam passenger power?

Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by nkp174, Sep 1, 2007.


Well, what type?

  1. Early stuff 0-4-0s, 2-2-2s, etc

    1 vote(s)
  2. 4-4-0

    4 vote(s)
  3. 4-4-2

    2 vote(s)
  4. 4-6-0

    3 vote(s)
  5. 4-6-2

    13 vote(s)
  6. 4-6-4

    5 vote(s)
  7. 2-6-0

    2 vote(s)
  8. 2-6-2

    3 vote(s)
  9. 4-8-2

    8 vote(s)
  10. 4-8-4

    18 vote(s)
  11. 4-6-6-4

    8 vote(s)
  12. Other (turbines, 4-4-4s, etc...)

    8 vote(s)
  1. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    i would have guessed streamlined 4-6-4 from your CNWman name.

    The GS4s began their lives in Ohio...they were built by the Lima Locomotive Works and would have been moved, at least, over the NKP, the Erie, or the B&O.
  2. CNWman

    CNWman CNW Fan

    Hudsons are nice, but the Daylight is the passenger engine that I like the most, even if it was a SP engine:mrgreen:

    The B&O huh, and the GS4 class engines are Ohio born, eh? I see exploitation:twisted: in the future for a 'custom' GS4 that's for my Riverside Railroad:mrgreen: (and no, I'm not planning repainting a pre-painted model, Those cost too much as is anyways:p)
  3. sumpter250

    sumpter250 multiscale modelbuilder

    Steam Passenger....... Long Island Railroad G-5 4-6-0.
    If I have a love of steam locomotives, it is because a G-5 scared the living (explitive deleted) out of me, when I was a kid.
  4. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    The Lima Locomotive Works, 3rd largest producer of steam locomotives, was west of the B&O's Cincinnati-Detroit mainline, south of the Erie main, and Southeast of the NKP's line to Peoria (the LE&W). Therefore, the GS-4s would have had to ride one of those railroads to get to SP trackage...I suspect they went via the NKP to St. Louis...but they could have taken the B&O to Cincinnati, the Southern from Cincinnati to New Orleans and onto the SP.

    Edit: Sumpter, I drool over the Bill's Train Shop locomotive kits. I would love to build an S-scale model of the EBT and have a couple of their PRR G-5s, H-8s, and E-6s. Such awesome kits! My father was curator, for a brief period of time, of the museum in Altoona...which gave me a liking for PRR power.
  5. Kanawha

    Kanawha Member

    I love C&O 4-8-2's.
  6. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    I love both the C&O and N&W 4-8-2s at the head of varnish. Very nice. I'd love to go back in time and watch them pulling into Cincinnati Union Terminal together.
  7. Kanawha

    Kanawha Member

    The flying pumps and Vanderbilt tenders give them so much character compared to other steamers. Plus, I've always thought the white rimmed drivers were very classy.
  8. MasonJar

    MasonJar It's not rocket surgery

    4-6-4's, followed closely by Pacifics.

    4-6-4's were the basis for the (imho) best looking steamers ever to ride the rails - NYC's streamlined locos that pulled the 20th Century Limited.

    They were also the wheel configuration streamlined on other roads, including the Blue Goose, CPR's "Royal" Hudsons (especially 2816 which is still running), and others.

    I also like the Pacifics because they were the "state of the art" passenger engine when they debuted in "my" era - the 1920s. They lasted until the end of steam on branchline freight service.

  9. bigsteel

    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

    wasnt C&O's george washington train get pulled by a 4-6-2 with flying pumps.i have a print of it pulling out of CUT but its buried somewhere...--josh
  10. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    I do believe that you are correct as the 4-8-2s were used, I'm pretty certain, not really in Ohio...just as I don't know if the gorgeous N&W streamlined 4-8-2s (which in my opinion were 2x as handsome as the Js) were ever used pull passenger trains into CUT...but I can dream :mrgreen:

    I do know that the first Greenbriers arrived to pull the George Washington in 1934. I'd but those beauties on a very, very short list of the nicest looking 4-8-4s...well above the later engines such as 614. I suspect that the Greenbriars replaced the 4-8-2s and the L-2s replaced the K-19s as the premier power for their stretches of the railroad.

    Both 4-8-2s could, possibly, have made it in as backup power. I don't know when the C&O 4-8-2s were retired.
  11. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

  12. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    Thanks Triplex! I knew that sheet was out there somewhere, but I couldn't find it.

    1952 was when the E-units arrived in force. The L-1s looked future-istic enough to survive...and the J-3s (4-8-4s) were good for dual service...it looks like only the J-3a's were really held onto, as the J-3 & J-3bs were evidently held as backup power for a year. The J-1's had too small of drivers for the western end of the line...but perhaps a J-2s may have made it to Cincy as backup power. The N&W K-2a's were streamlined 1945-46...so that awesome meeting could, by a stretch, have happened.
  13. hilldrum

    hilldrum Member

    I think I like the Pennsy Atlantics the best. I've always been a big fan of the mile-high drive wheels and the high speeds they could achieve. The only quirk to them is they were really not efficient for the long-haul freight runs.

  14. MadHatter

    MadHatter Charging at full tilt.

    I like the South African Classes 25, 25NC (Non- Condenser) and 26 (Red Devil)- REALLY massive and fast locos for 3' 6'' gauge!!

    Also like the 4-6-2 and 4-8-2 wheel arrangments.

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  15. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    Madhatter, you deserve bonus points for the awesome pictures. Of course, since there aren't any points...but you'd get bonus points if there were points!
  16. MadHatter

    MadHatter Charging at full tilt.

  17. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Active Member

    1890's 4-6-0's. They were elegant, beautiful and somehow even a little romantic looking in a kind of Victorian way, like machines designed by Jules Verne.
  18. Russ Bellinis

    Russ Bellinis Active Member

    My favorite mainline passenger train only lasted for a couple of years. It was the Valley Flyer on the Santa Fe running between Bakersfield and Oakland California. It was pulled by one of 2 semi streamlined Pacifics. It was painted black and silver with red and yellow stripes, and the cars were older heaveyweight equipment painted silver with the red, yellow & black stripes along the bottom of the car bodies.

    Here is a link to a photo collection:

    Santa Fe Valley Flyer pictures from trains photos on webshots

    Here is a link to Wickapedia's history of the Valley Flyer:

    Valley Flyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  19. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    Ah! Nice Russ. I don't recall seeing that before...but I think I now know what the IHC semi-streamlined 4-6-2 was based off of. Yet it still looks distinctly Santa Fe. It is impressive to me for someone to show me a picture of a streamliner which I'm not familiar with...I grew up with many books of streamliners...ranging from beautiful bath tub pacifics to not so pretty Rebels and 49ers...to just plain weird 2' gauge streamlined 0-4-0ts.

    Mountainman...My favorite 4-6-0s would be the Florence & Cripple Creek 4-6-0s. So pretty.
  20. Russ Bellinis

    Russ Bellinis Active Member

    That was where IHC got the paint scheme for the Santa Fe version of their semi-streamlined 4-6-2. Also Athearn offered their heavy weight passenger coaches, diner, observation, and baggage cars in the silver with red, black, & yellow stripes to model a Valley Flyer, although none of the equipment offered was based on Santa Fe prototype from either manufacturer. Rivarossi also offered a model of the Valley Flyer a few years ago, but their set was also not based on Santa Fe prototype, and used a hudson type rather than a pacific type locomotive.

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