Examining the On30 Bachmann Outside Frame 2-8-0

Discussion in 'On30 Forum' started by hminky, Mar 26, 2006.

  1. hminky

    hminky Member

  2. ross31r

    ross31r Member

    id agree with that - they look great, pull well and above all are so different from any other rtr 0n30 steam at the moment.

    Notice you got one in the same trim as my six!
  3. Lighthorseman

    Lighthorseman Active Member

    Really great job, Harold! But, I thought you had abandoned On30 for OO in the 1870s. Are you back with On30? Doing both?
  4. hminky

    hminky Member

    I am back with On30. The 1870's OO/HO concept was really a good idea. The old eyes just couldn't see small anymore. It became such a pain looking for magnifiers. I was working less and less on the equipment.

    Seeing the Bachmann 2-8-0 sealed the deal. I thought it would be a little, wimpy locomotive since it was billed as a 30" prototype, but is a really large narrow gauge consolidation. It looks like the prototype was a 36" locomotive gauged for 30". It is a really great engine and unbelievable for the cost. I am glad Bachmann brought out some heavy mainline power.

  5. jcoop1

    jcoop1 Member

    Glad to have you back to the Dark Side

    Love that loco..
  6. ross31r

    ross31r Member

    im waiting for the supposed up-coming Bachmann 0n30 Forney too - going to turn it into a small Mason Bogie by changing the trcuk to a six wheel one.

    Assuming there even is an 0n30 Forney coming!
  7. Johnson Bar

    Johnson Bar Member

    I recently purchased one of these loco's. As a matter of fact it resembles Harold's exactly! I plan to add the tsunami sound system soon when soundtraxx gets caught up with thier orders.I was suprised of how heavy the loco is. My loco has a some laboring up my 2% grades but that isnt a big issue at all . "I need more power Scotty" the parts bag it comes with was a nice bonus. watch crefully for the delrin pins on the plow as they are easily bent. yep, I bent mine. it looks nice pulling thier passenger cars.
  8. hminky

    hminky Member

    I am preparing an article about putting two 1-1/2 speakers in the loco.

    I am presently running an old MRC sound unit waiting for my Tsumani. The two 1-1/2ers,even with that sound unit the speakers really bark. That is why On30 is great for sound. None of those sissy HO speakers with their white noise as sound.

    Just a thought
  9. pgandw

    pgandw Active Member

    "None of those sissy HO speakers with their white noise as sound."

    You really have gone completely over to the dark side.:) I would have too, except for lack of space for even a caricature of an O scale structure. And that most On30 is really 3ft prototype narrowed to 30" gauge makes the rolling stock bigger, too. Maybe when I get fed up with tinkering with HOn3 mechanisms I'll make the switch, too.
  10. hminky

    hminky Member

    The steam sound coming out of an HO locomotive will drive you crazy. I have a new thread on sound in the On30 Bachmann 2-8-0. Having had the same decoder in the On30 loco and an HO locomotive, the ability to reproduce realistic sounds isn't available in HO.

    I have always been trying to promote On30 as a mainstream modeling effort. This "darkside" and "the Conspiracy" is being extinguished with Bachmann's equipment. On30 has gone beyond men putting large cabs on HO locomotives and driving them around small radii.

    Just a thought
  11. Johnson Bar

    Johnson Bar Member

    Thanks Harold I have to check it out. The sound in the On3O is one of the selling points I feel next to quallity. the soundtraxx in my shay just makes the model more fun. Have you heard the sound units in the new Broadway Limited steam in HO ?
  12. hminky

    hminky Member

    The problem with steam is it already resembles white noise. The small speakers required for use in HO don't produce a very good steam sound. Diesel sound is easier to reproduce in small scales.
    I have had sound in HO , S Scale and On30 going back to the Onboard analog command control. Bigger is better.

  13. Chessie6459

    Chessie6459 Gauge Oldtimer

    Great Photo Harold. Thanks for sharing the information with us.:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
  14. Greg Elems

    Greg Elems Member


    Believe it or not, that out side framed 2-8-0 is modeled after a genuine 30" gauge steamer. The prototype is still running in Montana and came out of Mexico when it was retired.

    Greg Elems

    PS Welcome back to On30 :D
  15. hminky

    hminky Member

    I will go with my assesment that it is a three foot Baldwin gauged to 30" for a specific Mexican branch.

    The frame is spaced for 36" gauge.

  16. Clerk

    Clerk Active Member

    :wave: :wave: Harold. Great pictures and story.:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
  17. Greg Elems

    Greg Elems Member

    You are probably right Harold, and Bachmann may have made it with the spacing for 36”. But it came from Baldwin's factory as 30" gauge engine. Many of Baldwin's designs were flexible for their narrow gauge market. And I do agree with you, Bachmann did a fine job on their model.



    A couple of links that might be interesting.

  18. Canopus

    Canopus Member

    I don't know if anyone has brought this up yet or not, but the 2-8-0 is potentially a very good donor chassis for any outside framed project. I was considering it at one point for a project to build a Fowler 0-6-0 diesel, using the 4th flycrank as the power transmission crank. It has just the right type of mass-balance flycrank for it. Any thoughts on this at all?
  19. ross31r

    ross31r Member

    someone in my club is being brave and turning a pair into an outside framed mallet!
  20. Canopus

    Canopus Member

    Cool, it would be interesting to see what else could be done with it. :)

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