COMBAT said:
I have seen a Proto 2000 in person with sound. It was an A B unit but it wasnt an F7. I have to tell you the proto 2000 was a great detailed unit. I dont run that era but I will say the detail, the metal screens on the side of the unit, the see through fans, the led lights and the overall paint job is just as good as my Athearn Genesis engines I have. I would say :thumb: on Proto 2000. Keep in mind this is just the details, I have never run one!
For the price, Proto 2000 makes a nice looking F3. I think F3 is the only F they make but I've heard an F7 is in the works since Walthers bought Lifelike.
Athearn Genesis, despite occasional QAQC issues, have the best looking models, paint jobs and details. They even go so far as to offer phase detail combinations that some RR's had due to modifications or wreck rebuilds which is really cool. I have an AB set of F3's which Rio Grande owned and modified. They have F7 side panels, but F3 chicken Wire air grills and tall fans etc. Sort of a combination of F3 and F7 which Rio Grandes F3's really looked like. Genesis also offers a Rio Grande F3 that was wrecked (in real life) and came back looking like and F9 on the sides, but and F3 on the roof. Another cool but unique engine. I plan on getting it too.
As for Proto2000, their F3 is a nice looking shell with good paint jobs and a smooth running mechanism for a low price. The side ladder hand rails are molded in so rather than separate wire parts but a very decent loco for someone on a budget.
For me, what I buy is mostly determined quality and do they offer the paint job I wan't. Proto 2000 doesn't offer anything that is "correct" for Rio Grande, but Genesis does and in spades - and even my favorite single stripe version.
I also own some Stewarts which probably have the best chassis/mechanism made for F's, but the shells are not quite as good as Genesis and nor the paint. The chassis were made by KATO if that helps, and were improved upon after Steve Stewart acquired the molds from KATO.