You know, I just realized, I can get at least two of your goats witha post like: Subj: breeding mice in outer space I have a stupid question about On30, what is... THANKS FOR THE TIPS GUYS!!! EXPECT NEW THREADS!!!! j/k Keep it lite and enjoy it and it will be better for all. Smile and enjoy the ride. Take time to smell the hoses (never understood that one, all the hoses I smelled smell like rubber).