Bill, to tell truth I can't tell from just pictures i've seen how the stub type work. Can you explain how? My layout depicts a small road in the southeast. Thats basically what i've been doing - bench type work. it's been awhile and i'm having to get re-familiarized with everything. I don't plan on building the Ho layout in the caboose (if it ever gets finished that is) But i might run an old O scale i have in a simple loop in either the A or B end. hopfully i'll have the new roof on the caboose by this winter. There was an MR artical i read about a 4-4-0 built around 1880 that was overhauled and "modernized" in the middle 1920's, (scrapped in the thirties) this is what mine is based on. Naturally it will pull my passenger train. t.