Discussion in 'Track Planning' started by Nazgul, Jan 31, 2006.
You should send those pictuires of your technique to the Model Ralroader Mag! Beautifu work. :thumb:
Nice tut Steve, thank you!
Just look out for the men-in-black.
Seriously, watch out for them!
Because, only an alien can be so good at so many things!!!
I'm out of praise and applause. Its time to just sit back and
watch your next masterpiece unfold!
And I'll never say keep up the good work again either!
Why, you just keep marching to your own drummer anyway!
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I do disagree with Miles and Mountain Man however.
You are not ready to publish.....Your ready to start your own
frigin' model railroad publication company for pete's sake.
That's enough, I'm sobing now. :cry:
Have a great Monday all!
Well Steve [nice name by the way ] first off, Happy Anniversary.
Second, If you know someone near me with a camcorder I would be happy to borrow it and make those video tutorials. Because it does not look like I will be getting one for myself soon . Oh well.
Third, you said you were tired of scenery. I have found over the years that sometimes I need a break from the trains so I take one. I might not touch it for weeks. heck even John Allen once said he thought of chucking the whole thing and thinking it might have been a mistake. He later smartened up though LOL.
I have his book by the way.
So take a break if you need it. You have accomplished a lot in only a year. Heck more then seasoned people even. One of the nice things about being a newbie is that you don't know what it is you can't do. Like you are not supposed to be so talented and get so much done in such a short time frame LOL.
You are doing a great job Steve [oh did I mention I thought you had a nice name?] LOL
I'm flabbergasted by the response to the tutorial....sure beats the reaction to my "ear wax....sculptamold replacement" tutorial.....don't know why that didn't catch on.....
All kidding aside...thank you all so much for the kind remarks:thumb: .....I really appreciate it:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I don't know what else to say ....first time for everything..........thanks guys
Big Thank You
Tonight, I start off with the post that became the foundation of everything that came after it. Everything this layout has become and is becoming was made possible by it.
I am, of course, talking about the post in which Galen unveils the final track plan. Besides being a brilliant realization of my then somewhat vague givens and druthers, it contains all of the important scenic and operational elements that give the layout/railroad its personality and its reason to exist. The coal mine, river, mountains, tunnels, bridges, yard…they are all there. The river has changed course a little and the two small bridges at the bottom of the left peninsula have become the curved viaduct, but nothing of significance has changed.
As great as all that is, put yourself, for a moment, in my place. Not only new to model railroading but to real railroading as well. I knew nothing about how a railroad works. If Galen had “handed” me the track plan and said “Here it is Steve…Go for it!”, it would have been more than anyone could have reasonably expected…it would have been more than I could have hoped for and I would have been truly grateful, and…I WOULD HAVE FAILED! I would have gotten the track laid, some scenery put in, but there is no doubt in my mind it would have quickly been abandoned due to lack of knowledge, and later…lack of interest. Luckily for me, that’s not what Galen did. As you look at the track plan, read how Galen vividly describes how this railroad could work. For an experienced railroader perhaps that would have been obvious, perhaps not. I only know, that for me, it crystallized in my mind, a conception of what THIS railroad could become.
This is Galen a.k.a. Ocalicreek’s post: (I edited it to show the picture itself and not the link)
See what I mean? Describing ops and the other technical advice made a critical impact on my ability to proceed and succeed.
It did one other thing. After seeing the time, effort, and thought that went into the design of this track plan for me, by someone who obviously excelled at and loved the hobby, my resolve to see it though and give it my best effort was hardened and I can honestly say that when I work on the layout and do something that is "good"….My thought goes back to this post and I find that “good” ain’t “good enough”
This is just one post...there are countless other gems posted by Galen (and many others) that have educated, challenged, encouraged, and inspired me (and I hope others) to aim high and more importantly......HAVE FUN!!!!
Thank you, Galen (my friend and first modeling mentor)
Tomorrow Ill wrap up the anniversary with a few "brief" thank you's and show the plans for Year 2 and the middle peninsula
I like how you re-capped this. Not a bad idea, but I've only recently gotten a start on my layout the way it is now.
BTW, have you checked my page lately?
Year 2 Begins...
There are a couple of people I have met here that I consider model railroading mentors. Their extraordinary skill and artistry speaks for itself. I look at their work and hold it up as a standard of excellence to try and emulate. What sets these people apart, in my mind, is not only their willingness to share their knowledge and passion but to do it in such a way that you feel on equal footing with them despite their incredible talent and experience. I look at the pictures of their work and can only marvel at it....and say to myself: "maybe someday"
Wayne...there is nothing I can say about your work that hasn't been said before...you are simply THE BEST!:thumb: (your timely help with the curved viaduct saved me from completely ruining what I think is the best feature on the layout)
and my friends...
Kurt...What you can do with a piece of plastic and some glue, boggles my mind! Your precision, imagination and ability to pull it all together (including scenery) is truly awe inspiring:thumb:
Deano...you are known for your engines and your beautiful pictures of them (as well you should be) but that is not the half of it. You are a fount of railroad and modeling knowledge and no one will ever know how many countless people have been helped (anonymously) by you. On behalf of all of us: I thank you!:thumb:
(your timely translations are another unsung public service you perform)
I have received a lot of help on this thread during this year. In fact, I could not even begin to properly thank everyone who gave practical advice, constructive criticism, or just a pat on the back when I needed it. That last thing, I want to do, is forget to mention someone, so, instead of mentioning names, I would just like to thank EVERYONE who has posted here (especially those of you who have been here since the beginning) and who have contributed to this project. I truly look at this a collaborative effort and I believe all of us should feel a sense of accomplishment at what has transpired over the last year.
Thank you all very, very much! (I said the thank you's would be brief....I lied!.....again!)...LOL!
Year 2 plan...or…What am I gonna do in the center?…..
Originally, a logging or mill scene was going to dominate the center peninsula (at least on top) and as the time came to really think about how I wanted to do it, I found that I just wasn’t excited about the prospect. However, images of a certain model railroad that I had seen online somewhere, kept popping up in my mind…after a lot of “googling”, I found it again and was totally blown away by the images and feelings that they evoked. The model railroad I am talking about is:
Gary Courtemanche's HO Scale Blood, Sweat & Tears Railway
Part of this masterpiece (that was sadly dismantled in 2005) is the town of “Fine”. It is described on the website this way: “ Fine is a quiet mining town, with several industries, and a quiet neighbourhood nestled amongst the trees of the mountainside. Far away for urban life, the town is served by some modest industries – a scrap dealer, warehouses and other assorted businesses.” That is a wonderful description of the town as modeled by Mr. Courtemanche. The following links are from the gallery and I think you will agree that it is not only beautiful and inspiring but totally believable and “real” as well.
I do not want to copy his work, but use it as a guide to capture the same feeling, and hopefully, realism….but in my own way.
The more I thought about this, the more hesitant I became to show the pictures of the BSTR (for obvious reasons). I am in no way capable of achieving this type of modeling excellence…to invite any type of comparison between my future work and his, would be ridiculous at best and terminally frustrating at worst.
At the end of the day, I decided to post the pictures so that everyone would know what I was trying to do….and “let the chips fall where they may”. I am truly a glutton for punishment!…LOL!
Well………what do you think?
One last thing....This is for you caboose lovers (my first blue-box kit):
Steve, hope I have been of help, in one way or another. I know I don't have much to say that would help, but I do try to show support at least. I also hope that someday, someone newer to the hobby could look up to me like you do to Kurt, Deano, and Wayne. I guess in a way you inspire me in similar fashion too.
Second, I like that town too. I look forward to seeing what you come up with. Whatever it is, judging by the progress thus far, it will look great.
Last, FINALLY a caboose! I always run one myself. And all my rolling stock, save for my RTR GP40-2, is Athearn BB kits. Love those kits
Naz, just keep goin'...!
Your doing fine... No matter what endevor you persue, there is always a mark to meet and aspire too. You just happen to stumble upon one such aspiration...
Yes, this is great work... but, keep polishing your stone, it is shiny already and will only improve with time...
Steve: Gary Courtemanche was a music teacher (can you guess from the layout?) I was into his layout on a tour once and I got to the town of Da Capo and said "Heck, now I've got to start over again". I think I got a laugh from him at that.
Gary has been at some of the smaller train shows lately with a portable layout, but just as neatly done.
Well Steve I hate to say I told you so [not really LOL] but I told you that you should do tutorials
Oh by the way. I am redoing my website. So any comments NOW would be nice. I have already redone four of the tutorials in the model rr section. I amhoping that putting the pictures on the site instead of having to go elsewhere will make things easier for everyone.
And once again Steve. Keep up the good work.
A recap is a very good idea keeps you on track
Steve, the pictures you choose of the BSTR are among the most beautiful MRR pictures I have seen so far, and a scene like that would be a good addition to your layout.
But you are too humble. Let’s talk about it, when you sum up what you achieved after year 2 .
Steve, i think your "THANK YOU" to Galen, and everyone else was a REAL NICE TOUCH!:thumb: VERY considerate of you. the words you mentioned of me was TOO KIND, i was Honored...THANK YOU STEVE!.
Gee, i had NO IDEA you were going to take on such a MAJOR UNDERTAKING in year 2... . i have FULL CONFIDENCE that you will achieve your plans, and KNOW they will turn out to be nothing short of the FANTASTIC WORK that you have ALWAYS done:thumb:. Seeing you take on this project, and doing it "Steve style" will be a REAL TREAT, something NONE of us will want to miss:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: . i CANT WAIT, and WILL BE RIGHT HERE to see this AWESOME project unfold! STUPENDOUS JOB STEVE!!!:thumb: THANKS! -Deano
EDIT: DOH!!!, i forgot to mentionoops: ) how GLAD i am that you now have a caboose!!!:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: LOOKS GREAT TOO!!!:thumb:
I'm with you...I would reply to more threads if I had something constructive to add but usually I just say: "Good job!"...We need experience and years in this hobby...it will come...I do appreciate all of the pats on the back that you and others have given me:thumb:
Thank you Herb...that is probably the most eloquent complement I've ever received
You too, are a fount of knowledge:thumb: and have been of great help to me...thank you!...I wish I could see his work in person and talk to him.
The inspiration is certainly there...As long as I keep it fun...I believe good things will happen It will be neat to finally build structures for a change!
Thank you...I hope I live up to your faith in me ...If Y2S is as enjoyable as Y1S...I can't go wrong no matter how things turnout
Enough with the Anniversary stuff....back to just doing the layout (bet you're all glad about that )
I will be skipping around doing ground cover and also starting the next phase. I still need to figure out where to put what and that may take awhile...
I've never done sizable areas of earth and greenery before and it is a challenge. I picked a few people's brains (thanks guys...you know who you are ) as to how to go about it and that really got me started.
This is what I got done today....it's not finished yet. I will be adding trees and bushes here and there and eventually some (hopefully) eye-catching scenic element:
I am indeed honored. And a bit touched. Thanks for the kind words...and the opportunity to create something fun that has blossomed into so much more!
But enough blithering (for now)...okay...I'm looking at the latest pics. First one, the ground cover looks fine, then a bit more looks alright, and then BLAMMO! Greenery!:thumb: That last shot...just waiting for something to come roaring around the bend! Excellent work!
I too have been a great fan of Gary's artistry. Does anybody have any pictures of this new portable layout? (And I'm jealous that you got to see the former layout in person!)
Oh, and later tonight after the kiddo is in bed I'll be updating my thread...with pictures!
That greenery looks great. My one recomendation ( well what I've found anyway) is keep the vegetation un uniform and I did read some where if your making bushes try to do them in groups of threes. I've found that if you don't try to be too neat it comes out more natural looking
I concur with Galen: excellent! You are on the right track, Steve. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
thanks Galen, Lynn, Kurt:thumb:
Lynn...I will try to keep that useful info in mind:thumb: ....I usually "try" to place things in odd numbers (learned that on HGTV )
I didn't do a lot tonite....I was trying some possible road placements in the center section...When I have a real plan I will post it.....
I did take a few pics so I'll leave you with them...have a great weekend!!!!!!!
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