Diesel I.D. Question

Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by RobertInOntario, May 28, 2007.

  1. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    Can anyone identify this loco, i.e. what type it's a model of?

    I inherited this model from my Dad and I believe it's made by IHC. Being more of a British train enthusiast, I'm not too up on North American diesels.

    Just wondering if CN or CP would have run the same type of loco and in what time period (I'm guessing the 1960s-70s).

    It runs well but obviously needs some repair to its body. I'm thinking of repainting it in CN or CP colours.




  2. jeffrey-wimberl

    jeffrey-wimberl Active Member

    I'm not sure, but that could be an EMD GP9, or maybe a GP7.
  3. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    Thanks, Jeffrey! I was just wondering if it was some sort of Alco but was also wondering if it was a Geep as well. Rob
  4. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    MY guess...a close resemblance to a GP7 Phase 1 without dynamic brakes:winki: . :mrgreen: -Deano
  5. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    Thanks ... I'll keep trying to narrow this down then! Appreciate your feedback. Rob
  6. msowsun

    msowsun Member

    That looks like it must be an IHC/Mehano GP-18:



    A CNR or CPR GP-9 locomotive looks a little different mainly because of the large fan in the center of the long hood. This is called a "Dynamic Brake" fan.

  7. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    msowson did the homework:up: ....i stand corrected:oops: :119: -Deano
  8. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    Wow -- thanks, Msowsun. That pretty much explains it and the Mehano/IHC site contains some really helpful info as well. I appreciate your looking this up!! Rob
  9. Catt

    Catt Guest

    Comparing your loco with mine I would say it is either late phase GP-9 or a GP-18 (They look a lot alike)

    The fact that it does not have dynamic brakes precludes it's use as a CP or CN loco I think.Personally If I wanted to keep and use it I would go ahead and paint it into the scheme I wanted:mrgreen: .After all it is YOUR railway.

    But then you could also offer it to Deano as it is a Union Pacific loco. :eek:

    [EDIT] i find it interesting that they would state that all GP 18s had dynamic brakes (they didn't) then makle the non- dynamic version.I have several Mehano HO locos and the diesels do not run half bad,but their steam is just simply AWESOME.
  10. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    :mrgreen: naw, Rob better keep that one, cripes, when UP is light on motive power they already have my phone ringing off the hook:eeki: :toug: :119: -Deano
  11. doctorwayne

    doctorwayne Active Member

    I would've guessed GP18, as both the GP7 and -9 have two 36" fans behind the cab and two 36" radiator fans at the rear of the long hood. However, I was under the impression that the GP-18 still used the two 36" fans near the cab, but a single 48" for the radiators. Your model appears to have two single 36" fans. Then again, I model mostly steam, so you shouldn't pay too much attention to what I say. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  12. Dave1905

    Dave1905 Member

    Both the CP and CN had GP9's but neither had GP-18's.

    Dave H.
  13. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    Thanks Wayne and Dave. So I guess I shouldn't repaint it in CP or CN colours (it would be pretty difficult anyway). I'm more of a steam fan as well but don't mind running a few diesels. Cheers, Rob
  14. msowsun

    msowsun Member

    Those two fans are 48" cooling fans. EMD and GMD switched to this arrangement with the last phase of the GP-9.
  15. msowsun

    msowsun Member

  16. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    Thanks again, msowsun ! Rob
  17. Russ Bellinis

    Russ Bellinis Active Member

    If you want to do it in CP or CN, just install the dynamic brake unit. If you can't get a scale width unit, you could cut one off the Athearn Gp7 shell, and then cut and fill between the "blisters" on both sides and the fan to make it fit.
  18. brakie

    brakie Active Member

    John,The late (phase III) GP9 share the same carbody as the GP18..THE GP9 had the 567C prime mover and was rated at 1750 hp.
    The GP18 had the 567D1 prime mover rated at 1800 hp.

    That looks looks like the old AHM GP18 which was also produce by Model Power..
  19. Greg Elems

    Greg Elems Member

    Well according to the list of owners in the drawing, CN and CP had late GP9's. Add the dynamic brakes from an Athearn GP7 and paint away. Good luck with your project.

  20. RobertInOntario

    RobertInOntario Active Member

    Thanks, Russ. I'm contemplating this. Do you think it will be a difficult conversion to do?

    Do you mean that I need to obtain the plastic body of an Athearn Gp7 shell or can I simply buy the plastic parts and apply them?

    I just bought some CN decals, so I guess I'm kind of committed now!

    Thanks again, Rob

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