Derelict (Alien)

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Vger1981, Nov 1, 2014.

  1. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator

    The right arm (from the ship's POV):


    The first two elements have a white center which has to be cut out. However, if you do this the parts will become extremely fragile because the rim at the longer ends of the oval is very thin. Thus I chose to leave a thicker rim first...


    ... goued the part together and THEN cut out the rest of the center piece.

    Another run:




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  2. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator


    Part 11 comes together nicely:



    As do parts 12 - 14:


    Everything assembled:


    And the first parts for the left arm cut out:


    CU! :)
  3. Rhaven Blaack

    Rhaven Blaack ADMINISTRATOR Administrator

    @Revell-Fan This is looking GREAT!
    My only suggestion to you, would be to build it with either the glue tabs coming from the circle parts or just double (or even triple) up on thickness of the circle parts and do not use glue tabs at all, then glue the skin to the outer edge of the circles (especially with the circles that have a hole in them). That way when you join the arm segments together, you will get a smoother connection and it will look like one solid piece.
    I am looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
  4. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator

    Thank you! :)

    Oh, you mean like I designed the Colonial One? I'll give it a try with the other arm.

    Vger did a remarkable job with the slicing. Everything fits and the seams are hidden well by the texture. :)
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  5. Ron Caudillo

    Ron Caudillo Creative Advisory Consultant Moderator

    I like this way of making domes, better looking (INMHO) than making from decreasing cone sections or common petal construction. Also MUCH easier to build! I am starting to incorporate this method in my newer designs. Once day, I'm going to rework the TOS Enterprise warp nacelle domes to this method, never liked building using petals, but it's all I knew to do at the time.

    Best Regards,
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  7. zathros

    zathros -----SENIOR---- Administrator

    This looks awesome!!
  8. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator

    The left arm:



    And everything put loosely together:


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  9. Rhaven Blaack

    Rhaven Blaack ADMINISTRATOR Administrator

    It is LOOKING GOOD to me!!!
  10. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator

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  11. Rhaven Blaack

    Rhaven Blaack ADMINISTRATOR Administrator

    This looks VERY CLEAN & CRISP!
  12. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator

    Here come the first greeblies - and the first part to cause trouble.


    The position of the light-grey part with the red dot was somewhat of a mystery to me. It wouldn't fit on either side, till I put it in the middle of the ring. Yep, that was it: The part is a former. It has to be inserted because it makes sure that the ring keeps its shape.



    This part looks very complicated:


    However, after assembling each sub-component this shape fell into my hands:


    A little worm. ;)


    To be continued..! :)
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  13. Rhaven Blaack

    Rhaven Blaack ADMINISTRATOR Administrator

    It looks good!
  14. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator

    I'm jumping to the head now because I have noticed something:

    Assembly ist pretty much straight forward and simple.




    Now take a look please:


    The head has to be pushed over the arm and glued into place. So far so good, however ...


    ... the recess of the arm is concave and the recess on the head is convex.




    This leads to a gap.

    Let's see how I'll fix that... :)
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  15. zathros

    zathros -----SENIOR---- Administrator

    If I had a bone that looked like that, I'd go to the doctor quick!!

    This really is coming out great. Rhaven is right about that tabs, you will see the other side will fit tighter, you may find yourself cutting out some of those sections to get a tighter fit on the tabbed side, I can see an accrued intolerance developing. That could be filled with glue and painted over too, but getting rid of those tabs will eliminate the off plane problem. :)

    I agree Ron, the use of conical parts is preferable over petals. It's more pleasing to the eye and the last piece can easily be made into a convex shape, as it is small, and a ball shaped object can rub the paper into the shape needed. :)
  16. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator

    It is amazing to see how the texture disguises much of the seams. Vger also provided some extra parts to cover the seams up. :)
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  17. Vger1981

    Vger1981 Member

    Wow this thing really moves on! You are doing great Revell-Fan, I wasn't even sure for some time if this thing can be build as it is.
    About the right arm cap, it should be convex as the head is, you just bended it around wrong axis, horizontal is right, vertical is wrong. Try to make a hole in the center of the part and pull it with some tool, it should pop out. If it doesn't, I can make some special parts for the gap filling for you, or you can try to print it again and cover it with another piece. This is hard to spot thing , I should put some kind of warning to the instructions about it. Also, I've seen finished Derelict on another forum, (man, it was fast and looks good assembled, I was surprised) and I didn't noticed this problem there. I'll contact the guy about this.
    Anyway, you can wrote me anytime if any problem will occur.
    Keep up the good work, your step by step photo guide will be really helpfull for the others! ;)
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  18. Vger1981

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  19. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator

    A fellow modeler at the German Sci-Fi modeling forum Phoxim has already pointed that out (I'm posting the build there, too). I applied some gentle pressure to the top and bottom of the cone - and guess what happened: The cap jumped outward and turned from concave to convex. Now it fits! :)

    @Vger1981 : Thanks for the feedback! I really appreciate it. I am writing down everything I notice during the build and will send you a list with suggestions to improve the kit. I saw the other build, it looks awesome! This kit is so well designed that the parts almost fall into place. Major kudos to you! The greeblies are a tad more difficult (mainly because of the small size of the parts). But if you work carefully everything should be fine. So far I haven't noticed any major trouble (aside from the cap issue and a few missing flaps). The new graphic showing the shape of the cap looks excellent. This will indeed avoid someone from making the same mistake I did. I'll send you a mail once the build is finished. :)
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  20. Ron Caudillo

    Ron Caudillo Creative Advisory Consultant Moderator

    Vger1981, WONDERFUL design work! I'm loving the texturing.

    Revel-Fan, nice build and progress photos/report!

    Thank you for this!

    Best Regards,
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