Delta 7 Shuttle

Discussion in 'Space & Aeronautics' started by the mole, Oct 5, 2006.

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  1. the mole

    the mole Member

    Can anybody tell me how much the Delta 7 Shuttle need to be enlarged to match the 1/100 Shuttle Stacks on jleslie48 site?

  2. hpept

    hpept Member

    The scale if the Delta 7 model is approx. 1:160, so you have to enlarge it to 160% to get a 1:100 scale.

    P.S: if you are into building the jleslie stack at 1:100, i suggest to try to build the Marscenter (Prof. Raimondo Fortezza) Space shuttle, which already comes in 1:100 scale and is way much better than the Delta 7 model.
  3. ekuth

    ekuth Active Member

    LOL !

    The Fortezza shuttles are also substantially more difficult to build. I'm stuck about 1/2 way through the Atlantis right now... which I really need to finish. The entire stack/shuttle assembly is for friends of mine that work at JSC (Johnson Space Center) and were part of the flight crew for STS-115 that just went up a few weeks ago.
  4. the mole

    the mole Member

    Both of you are right. The Fortezza shuttle would be the way to go, BUT I know my own ability an I am a long way from that at this time.
    Thanks for the info.
  5. milenio3

    milenio3 Active Member

    Hey, Ekuth, you lucky guy!

    An astronaut as a friend? Wow!!!

    I bet he will like... correction... love you model!!!

    Can I ask who is your friend?
  6. ekuth

    ekuth Active Member

    Actually, my friends aren't astronauts, but are on a first name basis with them. They are mission specialist trainers- and train the astronauts for the missions. (that is, they drive them crazy simulating problems for the astronauts to solve in the simulators). By definition, the flight crew includes the training staff (unofficially). I probably should have clarified.

    But yeah, it's very cool. I get to see stuff way before the media does and I've got some great shots of the last missions. For example:

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  7. Bengt F

    Bengt F Active Member

    Space Shuttle Card Models

    hpept & mole,

    Yes, the Delta 7 "Columbia" shuttle is a very fine model. There are also two newer renditions of this shuttle model, the "Discovery" and the "Enterprise" available for free at Fiddlers Green, here:
    However, the "Enterprise" does not look like it´s real namesake at all and the resolution is terrible. But the "Discovery" is quite nice - I have enlarged it and had it laser printed and it really looks very good. It has landing gear and wheel doors, too.
    There has been recent additions of the nose logos and wing patterns of the "Atlantis, Discovery, Endeavour and Challenger", by Lucas Underwood, to Jon Leslie´s 'parts' page:
    The Delta 7 "Columbia" model has also been transformed into the Russian "Buran" unmanned shuttle. There is now, however, a completely new and very detailed design, by Leo Cherkashyn (2006), of the "Buran" shuttle, which can be found at Jon´s site, together with Leo´s new "Energia" launcher and some very nice pictures:

    Btw, here is a link to the 'original' "Atlantis" shuttle card model in 1:72 scale, by Czech designer Pavel Bestr - look under "TECHNICAL MODELS" and scroll down to "space", where you will also find a model of the Apollo 11 Lunar Module the "Eagle", complete with a moon diorama and two astronaut figures:
    Above the two models, you´ll also find a link to NASA and the latest shuttle missions:

    Pavel Bestr´s model model is incredibly detailed and has a complete set-up of landing gear and wheel wells, a complete cockpit interior with controls, and a model of the Magellan space probe of the STS-30 mission, which was sent on to Venus.
    This model is the basis of the models made by Raimondo Fortezza, which he also acknowledges even if he spells Betexa as "Beteva", which gave me a hard time trying to locate it.
    Fortezza´s models are even more detailed and cover all the shuttles except the first test non-orbit craft, the "Enterprise". There are, however, some discrepancies regarding the matching of the left and right wing patterns, and also regarding the dark grey-black pattern of the ceramic tiling on the bottom of the shuttles.

    I´m doing a long-time project of combining Pavel Bestr´s model with Raimondo Fortezza´s and an enlargement of Bill´s update 2.0 of the 1:100 scale shuttle stack, which is also found at Jon´s excellent site:

    Happy building!
    Bengt :smile:
  8. Bengt F

    Bengt F Active Member


    Thanks for those fabulous pictures!
    Have you got some more close-ups of the "Atlantis" orbiter . . ?

    All the best,
    Bengt :roll:
  9. ekuth

    ekuth Active Member

    Let me dig through my archives and see what all I have saved... I'll also ask my friends to email me whatever they can.
  10. Bengt F

    Bengt F Active Member

    Shuttle Pictures

    Many thanks, ekuth - I can hardly wait . . .

    Bengt :grin:
  11. Dyna-Soar

    Dyna-Soar Member

    Sorry about the Enterprise.
  12. Hans Christian

    Hans Christian Active Member

    sir ekuth... Can I ask this question?

    Are there any Filipinos there trying to apply for astronaut candidacy? I've heard of many Filipinos working for NASA, and in the future, I'm very interested in applying for astronaut candidacy after my bachelor's degree and medical doctorate degree I'm planning to pursue after 1 1/2 years... :-D
  13. edkeffel

    edkeffel Member

    delta 7 ´s shuttle is far more accurate (at least at the nose section) than Fortrezza´s.

    The upper part of the nose is quite similiar to the real one.
    Fortrezza´s has, as far as I can see, a centreline glue section in the very middle of the shuttle nose part.
  14. Bengt F

    Bengt F Active Member

    Delta 7 Studios´ vs. Raimondo Fortezza´s/Marscenter Shuttle Models


    I beg to differ. In my opinion, it´s the other way around.

    I think that Fortezza´s shuttle models are much more accurate, down to the individual thrust jets in the nose section or the cargo bay interior, compared to the (also very accurate but relatively simple) Columbia shuttle model from Delta 7 Studios.
    And, if you build the Fortezza models with great care taken in the cutting and precise touching up with the right colour, you shouldn´t be able to see the joints all too clearly.

    The rounded wing and tail fin profiles of Fortezza´s shuttle models are much more advanced, athough the fin has a little bit too much of a 'squared' corner look - which can quite easily be corrected when cutting and gluing for a more rounded 'real life' look.
    Here is a fine "Endeavour" model built from Fortezza´s sheets:


    And, a detail of the same model, showing the cargo bay section with the docking station and the "Unity" of the ISS:


    As you probably know by now, Fortezza´s models are based on the original 1:72 scale "Raketoplán Space Shuttle Atlantis" card model by Czech designer Pavel Bestr, which also includes the "Magellan" space probe.
    It can be found in the "Technical models" section at Betexa´s home page:
    Here is a small (scanned) part showing a fraction of the sheet with the nose section and some of the cockpit control panels of this amazingly detailed model:


    A real card modelling challenge would be to build a more accurate "Enterprise" model, based on either one of the models. One would have to re-do the tile pattern entirely and recolour the fuselage towards a more all-white appearance, with the probe 'spear´at the tip of the all grey-black nose (see picture below):

    Btw, edkeffel, thanks for your antenna models - they´re really fine!

    All the best,
    Bengt 8)

  15. rlwhitt

    rlwhitt Active Member


    That's a fabulous looking shuttle! I'm glad to hear your positive comments of the Fortezza version, as I'd like to do it next. I can recognize that it will not be an easy build, will require much care.

    BTW, do the cargo bay doors open and close, or must you pick a configuration before building. I did not get that far in the instructions yet to really tell.

  16. Bengt F

    Bengt F Active Member

    Cargo Bay Doors

    Yes Rick,

    They open and close on this shuttle model - one version only. But you can of course build it with the doors glued and no interior.
    If you look closely at the pictures above (especially the second one with the detail of the cargo bay) you´ll notice little paper 'hinges' and the red 'handles' that are made to keep the sides of the hatches in place when shut.

    I have actually thought of doing the hinges out of some kind of tubing, for example white plastic straws - a slightly larger one for the outer hinges and a smaller one for the 'axle' - (I haven´t´tried it yet, though), to make them stay aligned.

    I´ll probably know for sure when I´m sixty-four and have completed the whole shuttle model project . . .

    Bengt :grin:
  17. rlwhitt

    rlwhitt Active Member

    I've seen some of the pictures of the airplane guys' hinges, it looks like they are using wire, but I suppose that'd require a bit of redisign of the entire hinge area.

  18. Bengt F

    Bengt F Active Member


    Right on the button, Rick

    Yes, it would probably need some kind of modification before putting it all together, and also a bit of stiffening up with card.
    of course you´d want your cargo bay doors to stay nicely rounded all the way through - some kind of really thick aluminum foil might be the ticket.

    Bengt :wink:
  19. edkeffel

    edkeffel Member

    Dear Bengt:

    In fact I built a Delta 7 model, and I managed to convert the kit into a buran-type shuttle, aiming to build experience to assemble my own Antares 2 space shuttle for my AER space agency 1:62 scale.
    I took some pics of Antares 2 M (M for "Menor" - Minor), wich is 21 cm long - and I will post them soon. And I was judging the Fortrezza´s quality by seeing models built elsewhere - before seeing you superb Atlantis model!

    So, I must reconsider my opinion.

  20. edkeffel

    edkeffel Member

    I would like to point one bad character of the Fortrezza´s models: The handrails are painted in the hull. Why don´t just draw the places for gluing the handrails? This happens in Unity, destiny and Zarya /Zvezda. It is a shame!
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