Clever Santoros model instructions.

Discussion in 'Off Topic Lounge' started by McGee, Oct 31, 2013.

  1. McGee

    McGee Newbie

    Hello everyone. I've started work on the Clever Santoros Enterprise B/Lakota and at the moment I'm just working on cutting out a bunch of the windows... yes they're very tiny and yes its very tedious but it looks really cool and sure seems to bring it to life.
    Here's my problem, and I couldn't find any answers in the forum( did I not type in words correctly in search maybe), There are no instructions or diagrams on any of his models that I can find.
    Am I missing something somewhere? Im not familiar enough with the ship designs to know where all the little bits go, or their relationship to the other parts, to know how they're supposed to go together, without diagrams and parts references.
    P.s.. I'll post pics of what the parts look like with lit windows here shortly.
  2. Rhaven Blaack

    Rhaven Blaack ADMINISTRATOR Administrator

    Clever is a member here at Zealot.
    I would suggest sending him a PM and asking him the questions that you have about the model. I am certain that he would be more the willing to give you the help you need.

    Good luck with it.
  3. McGee

    McGee Newbie

    Thank you Rhaven... feel free to giveme a good hearty old fashioned " no duh" smack at the back of the head. Let's see how many obvious no duhs it takes me to start figuring out ways to go about things huh?!. idea1:mrgreen:hamr
  4. Rhaven Blaack

    Rhaven Blaack ADMINISTRATOR Administrator

    Well, I have been compared to Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs for doing just that very same thing. I do have to say that I am quite good at it. So, consider it done "PROBIE".sign1
  5. McGee

    McGee Newbie

    HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA.....I got the best laugh out of the fact that when I was replying to you, I absolutly had the image of you smackin the back of my head and walking past and saying indifferently 'keep up the good work Dinozzo' and shaking your head. hahahaha. That was great.

    I took a few pics of the pieces being back lit...Please forgive how incredibly horribly blurry the images are.
    I have a camera that is just the worst i have ever had. It's auto focus, and doesnt let me manually focus, and each picture is a crap shoot because it's constantly pulling in and out of focus during pictures. It cant ever figure out that it's actually at a good focus and stay there. It has nearly gone across a few tarmacs at airshows.
    All that said, the pics, albeit out of focus, still give a good idea of how awesome Clever's models will look, after I silver the back sides for light block and run some fiber optics to just the nav beacons and strobes oand surface lights, just so theyre a bit brighter and more intense.

    Attached Files:

  6. McGee

    McGee Newbie

    the neat thing about the back lighting, is that anywhere that a surface light is another color in the ink, even though a needle hole is punched through the paper, the light pinpoint takes on that color..pretty cool.
    Up close, in person,all those tiny lights that look so glaring and almost out of scale, dnt look quite as big.
    All the windows are really nothing more than just a sewing needle pushed through until a point where the diameter of the needle matched just under the diameter of the printed window. The longer oval windows are just the same method at both ends and then the center very carefully cut with a sharp running blade.
    The end game will be that every area that would be lit on the "real" thing, will be lit here. Windows punched through, fiber optics run to the beacons etc, and areas like the impulse engines and nacelles will just be masked off on back side b4 i light block it, so that after removing the masking, the light under the paper will give those a decent glow that is even and subdued.
    spot light patterns on the hull will also be masked b4 the light block is painted from back side, etc etc.

    Attached Files:

  7. McGee

    McGee Newbie

    the windows in the center of this narrow strop look much bigger than they are.
  8. Rhaven Blaack

    Rhaven Blaack ADMINISTRATOR Administrator

    I have to say that you are off to a really good start and have a GREAT idea for this build. I will be CLOSELY following it.
    I am looking forward to seeing just how it will all turn out.
  9. Rogerio Silva

    Rogerio Silva Active Member


    Nice work, my friend! :sign1 sign1
    Couldn't resist the joke... Seriously now: is that model in .PDO? If it is, than expect no instructions, you'll just have to make it out of Pepakura Viewer. In case it isn't, we're still very lucky to have Clever as a member here, and then you can do as Rhaven righteously pointed out.
    All the best,

  10. Revell-Fan

    Revell-Fan Co-Administrator Administrator

    Holy frak! He's doing it with lights! Great start, McGee!
  11. spaceagent-9

    spaceagent-9 Right Hand Man and Confidant

  12. McGee

    McGee Newbie

    thank you all very much. It's going to be a tedious one, but i know patience and stick with itness will pay off. Unfortunately Rogerio when I downloaded the pages they downloaded straight to PDF format. They opened up on the page that way. I did contact Clever, so I'm crossing my fingers,as I intend to do all his models this way. starting with the B and Excelsior, just because i really love those designs...Then I'm tackling Rawen's large scale refit and A and reliant the same way..but it should be easier because of size....and getting to create the arboretum out of a bunch of different textured and patterned papers is going to be a lot of fun.
    Oh heck....the truth is I', tackling all my Star Trek models this way...some more involved than others. Ive done the same thing as as tests on a few of the star wars PDO kits out there too. I'll post those when I track them down. It was awhile ago.
  13. Ron Caudillo

    Ron Caudillo Creative Advisory Consultant Moderator

    Hey McGee,

    I like your style!
    For a new member here, you sure pick a cool model to build and give us a report too.

    Good luck in the assembly!

    Best Regards,
  14. McGee

    McGee Newbie

    Hey Thank you Ron. Very Much. I really appreciate that very much. Your enterprise model is also on the docket..a few months away..after Christmas, but it's on the list for the same kind of treatment.
    I'd like to ask you here, since I have your ear. When I begin it, would you be willing to make a custom secondary hull, or allow me to design the parts and shapes, of a Belgium class star ship with that bigger fatter hull that has docking bay at both ends?
    I'm not a strong designer, so It would look a ton better if you did it, but I wouldnt mind trying.
    If I do, Im just going to build it up and submit the pics, and leave it up to you if you want to allow a modification or conversion.
    I really really like your design work and style on your enterprises. Thank you again.

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