Challenger and excusion tank question....

Discussion in 'HO Scale Model Trains' started by Chesticus, Apr 4, 2008.

  1. Chesticus

    Chesticus New Member

    The Challenger has 2 excursion tanks that follow the main tender as it runs (this is as it runs today). I have read that they are 800 series tenders. My question is can they be found for purchase in HO scale?

  2. ed acosta

    ed acosta Member

    Perhaps some Union Pacific expert will come along and provide a lead on those tenders. Until then, let me give you the info I have. Seems like the UP Northerns FEF-1 once used that tender. The later FEF-3s were given the centipede tender identical to the ones on the Challenger and Big Boy. I recall that the UP Northern that was produced by American Flyer in S Gauge was an FEF-1 with that same tender you are asking about, but in a different scale. Unfortunately all of the current suppliers of the 4-8-4 are producing only the FEF-3 with centipede tender. It so happens that I have a UP turbine with that exact tender, BUT YOU CAN"T HAVE IT!

    Here is a link that explains the origins of that tender:
    SP 4449 & UP 844 Doubleheader!!! by Robert D. West
  3. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

    Even if you could get an 800-series tender, there's another problem. UP rebuilt them quite extensively not long ago.
  4. jbaakko

    jbaakko Active Member

    There's 3 yellow aux tenders that I know of. One round Aux, similar as to the ones offered by Lionel with their HO turbine (Deano just got one). The two others I've seen are also turbine hand-me-downs, however they have a sloped end (to help with the exhaust on some of the turbines). They can only be found in Brass, both OMI & Hallmark.
  5. Russ Bellinis

    Russ Bellinis Active Member

    How much work would it take to kit bash one of the aux tenders from either a Bachmann Gs-4 tender or a Bachmann aux. tender for the J? I looked at the link, but the pics were so small I couldn't see any detail, and while it explains the origins, I don't remember seeing a pic of the aux tender there.
  6. jbaakko

    jbaakko Active Member

    Here's a sloped tender:
    Seems the 2nd one is at IRM?
  7. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    Josh, your 100% correct:thumb: , that second tender IS at the IRM, but now its painted like NEW to match #18:winki::mrgreen: .

    :deano: -Deano
  8. UP SD40-2

    UP SD40-2 Senior Member

    This might not help, and sure, its easier said then done, but honestly, looking at my tender, i think these wouldn't be real hard to scratch build:winki: . they are about the same size as a paper towel roll, or if you wanted to go heavier, perhaps a wooden dowel. cover it with a thin sheet of styrene, add the railings & trucks, and your about there:thumb: .

    EDIT: If you were interested in trying this, i would be happy to take pics of each side of mine, and give the dimensions:thumb: , though its to big for my current layout, so i keep it at my dads since his layout is much larger. i will be stopping at dads on Saturday, if interested, just say it and I'll do it:thumb: .

    seriously, it really doesn't look to hard to scratch build, if you have the time and patience:winki: ...just a thought:smilie: .

    :deano: -Deano
  9. ed acosta

    ed acosta Member

    Here is the other configuration of tender, this one paired with UP turbine 61.
    08Apr 003.JPG 08Apr 004.JPG 08Apr 005.JPG
  10. jbaakko

    jbaakko Active Member

    There we go, two models, one of each type of car.

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