Boeing 707

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  1. peter taft

    peter taft Senior Member

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    Can you guys remember these items that i started to make for the Boeing 707 {see attachments} Whilst still in a builders block with the Boeing B-52, i decided to carry on and try and finish the B-707. I have been trying to get hold of the original designer of this model {Bob B.} to try and get his permission to do a re-paint of his model - does anyone know of his where-abouts or have some contact details i could use to get in touch with him ? I would be most grateful if someone could help. The Original model can be found here:
    http://jleslie48.com/ I got in contact with John, and he couldn't get hold of Bob B. Thanks in advance guys.

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    B-707 continued

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    B-707 continued here

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    B-707 continued here again...

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    peter taft Senior Member

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    And on to the Undercarriage {main} Front cart started but not finished yet !

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    and some more piccys...

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    peter taft Senior Member

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    I have been doing some research and found a great deal of information for the Boeing B-707. On my search, i discovered a disaster which happened in 1966.
    Here is what i found:

    Aircraft : Boeing B-707-436
    B.O.A.C Flight 911 {Speedbird 911} Piloted by Bernard Dobson {Dorset - U.K}
    Aircraft Tail Number : G-APFE
    Crew Members Total : 11
    P.O.B {Passengers On Board} Total : 113

    Flight Plan for the 5th day of March 1966 was as follows:

    Departs - San Francisco International Airport
    1st Stop over at - Honolulu International Airport, Hawaii
    2nd Stop over at - Itazuke Airbase, Fukuoka, Japan
    3rd and final Stop over at - Haneda International Airport, Tokyo, Japan

    The final stage would have been from Haneda International Airport to Kai Tak International Airport, Hong Kong
    The aircraft flew over the moutainous terrain and the City of Gotemba was along this flight path. The aircraft came up against some Severe turbulence, and was said by the ACI team, more turbulence than this aircraft was designed for {well over it's limits, it was said} There wasn't a CVR on this aircraft {Cockpit Voice Recorder} so no conversations could be used for details. The FDR {Flight Data Recoder} was destroyed. All passengers
    and crew were lost in this tragedy. I was looking for more detail on this aircraft, and it took me aback i must say, when i found all the above information out. It started me on to thinking that perhaps if i get the permission to re-paint Bob's model, that perhaps i should do this ill fated one - In Memory of all the lives lost. Also the question in my head...
    What is it with this number 911 ? A flight number that became a Tragedy - A date of a huge tragic event, and for the services you have to dial it ! Is this all just coincidental ?, or does it hold something more sinister ? Your thoughts on this and my idea for the re-paint please.
  8. Zathros

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    Wow, that's really excellent Pete!! On those Butt Joints, did you angle them? They look great! The rest of the model is just fantastic and she's going to be a proper Boeing 707 for sure!!
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    I did indeed John, makes for a far better profile and all skins follow around at the correct angle :thumb:
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    Here's the front section of the model thus far. I have had to use cheap cardstock {hard times } trouble with doing this, you really do realise you only get what you pay for ! For one, it doesn't hold the ink properly, and two.... the glue on formers sometimes starts to appear on the surface of the card with a brownish tinge to it. When i do a build of the re-paint version, i will have to get my usual card stock. Things are going well, the sections fit together like a dream. I have left the nose piece off till the end, just in case she needs weight, although, the main undercarriage is over the centre and leading aft - shouldn't be any issue. There are plenty of formers with this design - all backed up on 2mm card for good stability with the fuselage skins. I have managed to get quite a lot made, i only got the one shot with the fault on camera - but will try to get you guys more piccys soon. This model is very well designed, and a pleasure to build thus far. So one picture to see {sorry}

    I tried to up-load a picture but... the up-loader says "incorrect file type" yet it's the same size and file type has the rest - don't know what the issue or problem is - Any ideas ?
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    Me very happy..... look what news i just got

    On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Bob Bendorf <bbendorf@gmail.com> wrote:
    Dear Peter,
    I just got an email from Robert Tauxe informing me that you would like to repaint my version of the 707 in BOAC livery....you have my total OK to do this! You can use the website Bob Bendorf's Paper Models to download the Pan Am templates for repaint. If you need any other help let me know. Cheers, Bob Bendor


    I have sent an email to Bob thanking him for allowing me to do this re-paint :mrgreen: I would also like to thank Robert for getting in touch with him :thumb: - this has been a great help. So after the original model is finished {not be long now} i will start on the re-paint. No idea for the time scale, but a bit at a time is all i can do.
  13. Zathros

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    That is fantastic new Peter!! That is so cool with everyone involved. Thanks Bob and Peter, a new classic is born!
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    Tool question

    Peter,

    In post 5 above you have a couple pictures where you are using a sewing needle to roll the tubes for the landing gear. What is the metal piece holding the needle? Could you give us some more shots or explanation of how you make those small tubes?

    Great work so far. Building one of these airliners is getting close to the top of my to-do list. Can't be more than a few years away now :) but lots of models need little tubes.

    Totally looking forward to your repaint in BOAC colors too.

    Cheers,

    Steve
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    Thanks for the kind words Steve, and GREAT to see you are still working with the paper - your F1 car is most excellent :thumb: I don't have any shots of the item holding the needle - i will try and get some done for you. The item is a small plastic vice with aluminium jaws. It has a lever on one side which you pull down to make the vice suck down onto a smooth surface. I can't remember where i got mine from - i've had this for as long as i can remember, but i think a good hobby store should have them, and they're not expensive {at least they were cheap when i got mine} i wouldn't be without it - i use it for holding small circuit boards {there are slots in the alu jaws for this purpose} infact..... i think i got this from Tandy {Radio Shack} For small tubes, i first get a curl into the paper, run it up a flat hard surface or on the palm of my hand. Once the curl begins, i attach one end to the needle with a tiny piece of low tack tape {too much, and you wont get the tube off the needle. } I turn the paper a little at a time adding small amounts of glue as i go. When i reach the end of the roll i sit and hold it till it's dry enough not to spring open - you could use a peg to hold it if you wanted to. Once totally dry, i burnish the end {press along the seem with a smooth small spoon or similar} after that - slide the tube off the needle.... job done :thumb: Hope this helps Steve. The 707 is almost complete and will make her appearance here very VERY soon - camera willing.
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    O.k.... the Boeing 707 is now complete :) A resume of what went into this build.
    1} Engines/Pylons/Undercarriage built {a while back} using GOOD quality cardstock {Tesco Executive Presentation Card @ 160gsm} This is my usual brand that i can safely say is THE best i have ever used, and i used this for all my previous builds.
    2} The rest of the model {skins} Forced to use CHEAP cardstock from a pound shop {25 sheets for £1} No weight given on the packet, but under the 160gsm. The card is o.k'ish, but the problem isn't with the printing on to it, it's when you want to glue it up ! the glue re-activates the printed ink surface, i know you expect this to a point on most cardstock, but this was a game for a laugh.... also, when putting the formers and bulkheads in, you could start to see a brownish mark appear on the other side after a while, this mark doesn't go away. A huge lesson learnt here :rolleyes: I have one positive thing to say about this cheap cardstock ! It didn't make my skin condition flare up once....ummm makes me wonder what they left out ? :confused:
    3} All Bulkheads/formers/spars made from VERY stiff 2mm card - knife blunting card for sure - but hey.... they didn't have any issue with keeping straight and FLAT ;)
    4} Added cocktail sticks to insides of engine Pylons to keep them straight and true - i am SO glad i did this !

    I forgot to put the scale cube in the shots - so here's the dimentions:
    Please remember that i up-scaled this model from 1:72 to 1:48

    Length = 20" {nose to tail} Width {wingspan} 20" Height {to tip of vertical tail} 6.5" so a fairly large model at this scale.

    Thanks to: Bob Bendorf for this marvellous design. Rob Tauxe and Don Boose for helping with emails and contact with Bob - MUCH appreciated guys :) Thanks for following this thread, and i hope the last few pictures will have been worth it for you. I enjoyed building this model for sure - i hope you did too.

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  18. Zathros

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    You 707 is beautiful. I bet some Exec a Boeing would love one. Interesting music! :)
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    Thanks John. I would love one of the big corporation display models - the ones they supply to Holiday/Travel agencies, they're huge - not very detailed, but huge. One of those could easily be stripped down and some real detail added - don't know how we mere mortals could get our hands on one of them. The video was decompiled, i just put it back together {a few frames missing here and there} but came out ok'ish. The music added a certain something to this, i love the purity and the straight to the point voice over - very entertaining non-the-less :thumb:
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    Ah, a project after my own heart

    Just what I wanted to do, upscale it. You said something about a repaint?