Answering more requests

Discussion in 'HO Scale Model Trains' started by nachoman, Nov 20, 2007.

  1. nachoman

    nachoman Guest

    A few mentioned that they would like to see more photos of my projects and rolling stock. Here is one of the oldest projects on my workbench, a model of Magma Arizona #4 that I started long before I joined the gauge. I hadn't worked on it in years, but recently have been working on it again. Plans were published in Gordon Chappel's book "rails to carry copper" and in the Narrow Gauge Shortline gazette back in the early 80s. Unfortunately, I lost my photocopy of the plans, and need to make it to the library and re-copy before I can resume work!

    I've been making it out of brass mainly using files, a rotary tool, and an 80w pencil soldering iron.


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  2. nachoman

    nachoman Guest

    And here is my only operating steamer (the shay is out of service for reworking, and the other 2-8-0 needs new drivers). This is a roundhouse 2-8-0 kit. The engine has been detailed, but havent gotten around to detailing the tender yet. I still need an engine crew (currently unpainted on my workbench) and need to figure out how to install a headlight.


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  3. tetters

    tetters Rail Spiking Fool!

    Those are cool! The scratch build is neat. Very nice looking steamers.
  4. Russ Bellinis

    Russ Bellinis Active Member

    For installing a headlight, how much room is there in the smoke box, and how easy would it be to disassemble the headlight? You could take the headlight off and take it apart. Install a grain of wheat or grain of rice bulb in it. Run the wires down between the headlight and the mounting bracket, and then through the front of the smoke box at the very top just above the bracket or even tightly against the bottom of the bracket between the 2 braces.
  5. nachoman

    nachoman Guest

    the smoke box is a solid chunk of pewter. I'd have to drill all the way through.

  6. tetters

    tetters Rail Spiking Fool!

    Wow! Don't make them like that anymore do they??? :eek:

  7. wpyr

    wpyr Member

    Looks Great!
  8. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    That's cool. Your 2-8-0 looks nicer than my 2-8-0...I learned after the fact that their outside frame version looks 10x better than their inside frame version.

    Do you (or did you) have a plan for getting the running gear for #4? It seems that finding the right drivers is by far the most difficult task in scratch building steam locomotives. Are you using 0.005" thick brass as an overlay with the rivet details...or have you had access to a riveting tool? It is good to see people scratch building steam. I have a few such projects on the horizon...probably a DSP&P Baldwin 2-8-0 which was a sister to the D&RG Class 56 engines.
  9. nachoman

    nachoman Guest

    yeah, I am using thin brass with embossed rivets as an overlay. I am using a turned nail in a pin vice to hand-emboss the rivets one at a time.

    For the running gear, I havent decided yet. You can get c-16 driers from precision scale. They are costly and two inches oversize. You can also still get drivers from athearn (the old MDC drivers). They are 4 inches oversize. Or, I could try and find n-scale ones and widen the gauge. Sometimes, there are hon3 drivers on ebay, but they usually go for $$$. I am willing to live with oversize. I also have considered making my own drivers and using NWSL tires. I would probably make one driver center and then make a mold of it and cast it with pewter. Then I would press the tire on the center.

  10. ed acosta

    ed acosta Member

    What a beauty!

    It takes only seconds to pull a ready-to-run loco out of a box, but it takes weeks to build a jewel such as your Roundhouse 2-8-0. The pride and attachment that you have over something that you created is well worth the extra time spent. Congratulations on this fine model.

  11. nachoman

    nachoman Guest

    By the way, I think the inside frame version needs to be lowered to look better, and all the "firebox" detail needs to be cut off. I have an inside frame version that either needs new drivers or the drivers re-quartered (they wobble and spin on their axles). maybe that is a task for tomorrow.

  12. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member

    100% agreement.
  13. bigsteel

    bigsteel Call me Mr.Tinkertrain

    great lookin locos kevin :thumb:,cant wait to see the scratchbuilt loco finished,i find the handbuilt locos to have so much more character over the R-T-R models.keep up the good work.--josh
  14. Ray Marinaccio

    Ray Marinaccio Active Member

    Hi Kevin,
    Nice job on old #4.:thumb:
    For the headlight on the MDC loco, check out how I did the headlight on the MDC shay in the academy.
    What diameter are the drivers that you need?
  15. nachoman

    nachoman Guest

    I'll go see if that shay page still pulls up.

    The loco should have 34" drivers, but I doubt anyone would notice if I used 36" or 38".

  16. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

    Outside frame narrow gauge steam always looks better than inside frame. :D
  17. pgandw

    pgandw Active Member

    Depends on whether you want to model the run-down, falling apart 20th Century, or you want to model the golden years of narrow gauge - when dreams were huge, and locomotives tiny. :mrgreen:

    It's great to see the fine modeling going on here. On my HOn3 locomotive project list:
    - Keystone Shay
    - Ken Kidder 0-4-0T to be converted to an 0-4-2T, detailed, remotored, and regeared.
    - assuming the 1st Keystone Shay turns out well, building a second one (or an early Climax)
    - MDC inside frame - needs boiler lowered and backdating to approximate a C-20
  18. Glen Haasdyk

    Glen Haasdyk Active Member

    Great locos. I have both the Inside and outside frame roundhouse engines and alot of parts (probably enough to build another one of each) But I only had one motor so I powered the outside frame. Your's looks alot better than mine, probably because you added a few more details than I did and your weathering is really good.
  19. nkp174

    nkp174 Active Member


  20. Triplex

    Triplex Active Member

    I was half expecting that comment to draw Canopus out, but I haven't seen him around much lately...

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