A fan trip on a Peter Witt Street Car.

Discussion in 'Getting Started' started by interurban, Sep 10, 2004.

  1. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    Some of our happy gang had a day out last Sunday with a lot of street car fans some from the U S A. The photgraphs where taken from a refurbished PCC.

    A chartered Peter Witt.

    Comments by Bill.

    Hi guys,

    Here's some photos from Sunday's charter.


    2766_01 looping around Main Station

    2766_02 at the streetcar platform at Main Station

    2766_03 Bingham loop

    2766_04 being pushed into Hillcrest by the an
    emergency wagon (no overhead due to construction at
    this point)

    2766_05 in Queen and Coxwell loop

    2766_06 entering Main Station (had to move fast!!)


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  2. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    And the last shot.
    Every one had a great time taking a step back in time. :thumb:

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  3. TomPM

    TomPM Another Fried Egg Fan

    Great pictures! Looks like fun!
  4. 60103

    60103 Pooh Bah

    great pics. Was that the trip that did all the grand unions?
    When I first became aware of 2766 (on the "Belt Line"), she has solid cream around the window strip, like a PCC. Looks more elegant now.
    What are they doing at Hillcrest?
  5. jon-monon

    jon-monon Active Member

    Lovely pics, Chris! :D
  6. Chessie6459

    Chessie6459 Gauge Oldtimer

    Great Pics :thumb:
  7. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    Thanks folks , I wish I could have joined the guys.

    Hi Dave, They missed Bathurst and King and may be a few others, so Not the one that did "all"the grand unions.

    The Fans are fighting to keep Peter Witt #2766 on the T T C property with P C C #4500 and #4549.
    It is a constant battle as some higher ups :mad: would like them all at Rockwood Museam, and that would end all Fan trips around Toronto. :(

    The shipped the other 2 Witts from Rockwood down town and painted them up for the Russell Crow movie, they are back there now.

    See you soon at the Christmas Train Show??
  8. jetrock

    jetrock Member

    Got a chance to ride one of the Peter Witts in San Francisco last year--those are very cute cars. I'm fond of the PCC's too... now I'm just waiting for Sacramento to wise up and restore one of its historic trolleys to active service! It may be a while, though...
  9. spitfire

    spitfire Active Member

    Great pics Chris!! Thanks for taking us down memory lane. Any idea of the timespan these cars operated?

  10. Matthyro

    Matthyro Will always be re-membered

    Seems to me that some of these were in use back in 1956/1957 when I first visited Toronto The Good!!! Those days King Billy rode a horse in the Orange Parade
  11. interurban

    interurban Active Member

    Hi Folk , To answer Vals question,
    here are mile stones tacken form the TTC web site.

    1861 The Toronto Street Railway Company is the first franchise to operate public transportation in Toronto.
    1892 First electric streetcar in Toronto is operated, on Church Street. Coal stoves provide heat.
    1894 Last horse-driven streetcar is withdrawn.
    1921 Toronto Transportation Commission takes over nine existing public- and privately-operated fare systems within city limits.

    1921 First buses are introduced, on the Humberside route.

    1921 First of 575 new "Peter Witt" streetcars enter service.

    1922 First electric trolley coaches enter service, and are used until 1925.
    1927 Gray Coach Lines, the TTC’s intercity bus operation, is founded.

    1938 First of 745 Presidents’ Conference Committee ("Red Rocket" or "PCC") streetcars enter service.
    1939 to 1945 TTC contributes to the Second World War effort. Record numbers of passengers are carried. Women are employed for the first time as drivers, conductors, and in maintenance positions.
    1947 Electric trolley coaches re-introduced.
    1953 The Municipality of Metropolitan Toronto created.
    1954 Toronto Transportation Commission renamed Toronto Transit Commission, and becomes the sole provider of public transportation in Metro Toronto.
    1954 Yonge Subway opens between Union Station and Eglinton Station.
    1962 First 75-foot-long Canadian-designed aluminium subway cars enter service.

    1963 University Subway opens between Union Station and St George Station.

    1963 Last Peter Witt streetcars retired from regular service.

    1966 Bloor-Danforth Subway opens between Keele Station and Woodbine Station.
    1968 Bloor-Danforth Subway extended west to Islington Station and east to Warden Station.

    1970 Last year that farebox revenues meet TTC operating expenses.

    1970 Senior citizen fares introduced.

    1973 Yonge Subway extended north to York Mills Station.

    1973 Zone fares eliminated on TTC services within Metro Toronto.

    1974 Yonge Subway extended north to Finch Station.
    1975 Exact cash fares introduced.

    1975 Wheel-Trans established, operated by a private contractor using modified conventional vans.

    1978 Spadina Subway opens between St George Station and Wilson Station.

    1979 First Canadian Light Rail Vehicles (CLRV) enter service.

    1980 Unlimited-ride monthly Metropass introduced.
    1980 Bloor-Danforth Subway extended west to Kipling Station and east to Kennedy Station.

    1985 Scarborough RT line opens between Kennedy Station and McCowan Station.

    1987 North York Centre Station opens.

    1987 Blue Night network of overnight bus and streetcar routes is introduced across Metro Toronto.

    1988 First production Articulated Light Rail Vehicles (ALRV) enter service.

    1988 TTC assumes full responsibility for Wheel-Trans operation

    1988 TTC ridership reaches record level of 463.5-million annual customer-trips.

    1989 First CNG-fuelled buses enter service.

    1990 Community bus service for seniors and people with disabilities introduced.

    1990 Harbourfront streetcar opens between Union Station and Queens Quay & Spadina.

    1990 Gray Coach Lines is sold.

    1990 Last original red "Gloucester" subway cars retired from service.

    1993 Electric trolley coaches retired from service.

    1994 GTA weekly pass introduced, valid on TTC and other surrounding transit agencies.

    1995 Last PCC streetcars retired from regular service.

    1996 Downsview Station, Bloor-Yonge Station, and Union Station become the first fully-accessible subway stations.

    1996 First lift-equipped accessible buses enter service.

    1996 Spadina Subway extended north to Downsview Station.

    1997 Spadina streetcar opens between Spadina Station and Union Station.

    1998 First low-floor full-sized accessible buses enter service.

    1998 The amalgamated City of Toronto replaces Metro Toronto and six area municipalities.

    2000 Harbourfront streetcar extended west from Spadina & Queens Quay to Exhibition.

    2002 Sheppard Subway opens from Sheppard-Yonge Station to Don Mills Station.
  12. 60103

    60103 Pooh Bah

    Peter Witt Timetable

    the first Peter Witt arrived in 1921. The full set was around by 1923. There were 350 motor cars and 225 trailers. First removals in 1936 (1 motor and all 30 2-door trailers.) Major decrease in the fleet from 1953 with the Yonge subway. Reduced to 2 cars in 1963 with the University subway; cars stored at Hillcrest (excusion use?).
    First PCCs in 1938, last acquired in 1957. First major deletions in 1966 (Bloor subway). Last regular service in the 1990s (?).
    Peter Witt named after Cleveland transit manager who devised pay-as-you pass far system with conductor beside rear doors. Whole front half of car was like "front platform" for those waiting to pay. Padded seats in the rear.

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