2 years of R&D and the full models completed

retunga

Designer
After much thought, I have decided that I am going to release the models for download, at the moment I am busy setting up download cloud and working on the webpage to host it.

So Good news for many people.
And yes it will be free.

So watch this space.

R
 
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Zathros

Beautiful!! I love models like this! If you wish, you can upload it to the "Downloads" area. You will always have control over the model, and can remove it if you ever wish too. If it is too large, send me a P.M. and I will upload it for you. No problem it you choose not to either. Great news!!

(Some of these parts look like they could be printed colorless, and on Yellow paper, which would save a lot on Ink, as well as some of the Black parts.............just a suggestion)
 

retunga

Designer
Well the Excavtor is now been uploaded and is just waiting to be approved, i will upload the rest in due course.

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LAZGEORG

New Member
I just downloaded this.It is amazing!So professional and yet free!I am sure it will be a very enjoyable built.Just a question,is it in a spesific scale??Thank you for your generosity to share this with us!!
 

retunga

Designer
Lazgeorg, the scale in which the model was done in if I can remember correctly is either 1:24 or 1:25 but when you print the model on every page there is a mm scale that you need to keep to, basically print it with out scaling the paper up or down and it should work out.

Zathros thanks for the approvals, the Trailer, Truck and the mobile arm is all uploaded and ready for your approval.

R
 

LAZGEORG

New Member
Thanks for your reply.Actually i intend to build it in 1/43,my favorite scale for non military vehicles due to lack of room,although it will be huge even in this scale.Thanks again !!!!
 

retunga

Designer
As a huge fan of Nosports' work I would like to voice a serious concern about the legitimacy of these models being a "complete redesign"

I have had copies of his models for years and have spent many hours studying the parts sheets and build pics of his finished models not to mention spending a great deal of time building more than one of them and can quite honestly say I see very little difference in your models at all apart from a few changes here and there, I think the moderators who have rushed to approve your butchery of his work should spend a bit more time looking into this before condoning what you have done.

You have obviously based a great deal of your work on his original models, where are your "work in progress" pictures of the design process? If you indeed created these from scratch you will also still have "original" files to show us some evidence that you did indeed create these yourself.

First off, thanks for your comments.
Yes the models of the truck and excavtor are based on copies of nosports, and yes I have reworked them my changes, now if you look VERY carefully at the artworks of the Truck and Excavator you will see that I have indeed included Chriess name on the artworks of those two models only. so in terms of the legitimacy of the models I AM making note of the nosoprts A.K.A. Chriess.
My devlopment photos are that of the finished items, I did not take photos of the devlopment models and I never intended to ever.The artworks were drawn from scretch and updated in the way that I was happy with them to make it buildable without having to think again of I did or what one who builds these models have to do to get it to work.

Now in terms of the trailer and mobile Crane arm, THOSE design are MINE, I do not see any where on the internet any design that looks like that or even teying to make a model like that.
Mobile Crane arm was designed from a handful of cellphone pictures that I took when a arm was in working on it task at hand.The model was designed in 3D and from there built and modified until correct.

The Trailer is based on many designs out on the road and of which I made it up as per what I wanted it to look like and do, that of move the excavator.

R

P.S. the models are all now ready for download.
 
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Zathros

First off, thanks for your comments.
Yes the models of the truck and excavtor are based on copies of nosports, and yes I have reworked them my changes, now if you look VERY carefully at the artworks of the Truck and Excavator you will see that I have indeed included Chriess name on the artworks of those two models only. so in terms of the legitimacy of the models I AM making note of the nosoprts A.K.A. Chriess.
My devlopment photos are that of the finished items, I did not take photos of the devlopment models and I never intended to ever.The artworks were drawn from scretch and updated in the way that I was happy with them to make it buildable without having to think again of I did or what one who builds these models have to do to get it to work.

Now in terms of the trailer and mobile Crane arm, THOSE design are MINE, I do not see any where on the internet any design that looks like that or even teying to make a model like that.
Mobile Crane arm was designed from a handful of cellphone pictures that I took when a arm was in working on it task at hand.The model was designed in 3D and from there built and modified until correct.

The Trailer is based on many designs out on the road and of which I made it up as per what I wanted it to look like and do, that of move the excavator.

R

P.S. the models are all now ready for download.

I had disapproved his post. I am not sure how it got back up. If he would have stated his concern without the insults that would have been fine. However, it is not his place to make this judgement. You have not duplicated that model. You made your own interpretation which is norm in this hobby. He had reported the issue and I answered him. His attack on you is precisely what I do NOT want happening in this forum. It is also, by the conduct of other members, not wanted either. quite a few people I trust, have looked at your model and agree that it is not the same model. Let's face it, if you made a Spitfire, and dead on a superb job, then it would look like a Spitfire. That's the nature of this hobby. The more accurate design. The more similarity of the models. This is a no-brainer!! :)

All models have been approved, and are in the download section. :)
 

jaffro

Long term member
nice to see ego power tripping moderation is alive and well here at Zealot... the reason many members left, the same reason most of them will never come back.

if you don't agree with a post just delete it, just like this one.

my original post was not an attack, I was merely poining out that these models are almost exact copies or repaints of someone elses, without permission from the original designer, regardless of wether or not he has been credited in the new files.

Ignore the facts, get back on your high horse, whatever.



From zathros:
These are the kind of posts that get people banned in this forum. Jaffro has been warned many times. This was the final insult. He is now Banned. All parties directly involved in this have come to an agreement, but Jaffro continues to flame, and insult. He has gotten himself banned for this. I made this public, because this was his wish.
 
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Zathros

nice to see ego power tripping moderation is alive and well here at Zealot... the reason many members left, the same reason most of them will never come back.

if you don't agree with a post just delete it, just like this one.

my original post was not an attack, I was merely poining out that these models are almost exact copies or repaints of someone elses, without permission from the original designer, regardless of wether or not he has been credited in the new files.

Ignore the facts, get back on your high horse, whatever.

Jaffro, the problem is, you're wrong. I have seen the P.M.'s between Nosports and Retuga. I have seen the conversations about what parts should be strengthened, and what parts needed work on. I have spoken to Nosports (Chriess), and Retunga.

This comment: "nice to see ego power tripping moderation is alive " is an insult. I have told you before I will not tolerate insults from you. So, you get an infraction. I told you in a P.M. that I have received P.M.'s from both parties, and the issue is settled. Nosports has also indicated that you do no speak for him. Nospors has also indicated the matter is over as far as he is concerned. This is just flaming on your part.

Since you continue to flame, and cannot mind your own business, I am giving you the infractions that correspond with your behavior. You know how the P.M. system works, so, I will leave this up here as a warning to others. Fouled mouthed individuals who cannot mind their own business will not be tolerated. Your other posted was NOT deleted, you just can't see it. It was kept as evidence of you brash insulting attitude and behavior. Nosports is a gentleman, quite capable of taking care of his own affairs. He has. It is obvious that you do not rank as he has not informed you as to his conclusions in the matter. Think about that. You don't know what's going on. You are a trouble maker. You are one of those people who would have done well by leaving this forum, you took the hard way out.

The points you have accumulated from your actions have in fact gotten you banned.

This issue does not involve you. You speak above your station.
 

lehcyfer

Member
I love to see examples where "hollier than thou" attitude gets cut out. Unfortunately on many Polish forums it is out of control :(

We need you in Poland, Zathros!

:)
 
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Zathros

I hate having to be the heavy. I don't like it at all. The most important purpose I feel I can serve is trying to maintain an atmosphere, that I saw when I came here. One of comradeship, support, and help. People exchanging information. If this would have been handled in P.M.'s, it would have been different. When someone's only posts are to antagonize, I boot them. I don't see anyone crying over his departure. I also got a lot of input from my friends over at Papermodelers, including a few Moderators, who have stated this situation better not rear it's head there. They are in agreement. Rude is Rude. It won't be tolerated. There's no need for it!
 
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